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05. http://i.imgur.com/6M803C6.jpg

Of course that's a valid preference to have.

For me, personally, one of the interesting things about Captain America conceptually is that Captain America is a specific person, with a specific background, who then becomes a symbol for American identity as a whole. So it's actually really interesting to me that based on his background Steve Rogers would most likely be Irish Catholic, which is pretty far removed from the kind of American-default-Protestantism that you would expect if it was just intended to drive home the America aspect of the character like you say. That's interesting to me.

Much more likely he's Protestant. He's supposed to be the All-American boy, not the outlier.

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/CaptainAmerica.html

I don't think any of the evidence there is especially conclusive. On the other hand, I do think that if Steve is a child of Irish immigrants - which I believe he canonically is - there's a strong association between that and Catholicism.

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(Anonymous) - 2017-09-13 01:00 (UTC) - Expand

I have never read a Captain America comic so I don't know if this is true to his character or not, but this didn't bother me. To me, it made him feel old-fashioned, which highlighted how out-of-place he was. I usually don't like religion in my genre movies but this was fine with me as just one line thrown out there. Anything more would've felt preachy so I'm glad there wasn't any more.

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Yup

yes, this!

Christian, my eye. You leave my nice Jewish Captain America alone.

This :(

Rogers isn't a Jewish name. Source: Jewish. Also isn't he canonically of Irish ethnicity? Don't get me wrong, a Jewish superhero would be spiffy, but Cap's a very odd choice for that particular headcanon.

Agreed.

Steve isn't Jewish for me, but you'll pry Jewish Bucky Barnes from my cold dead fingers.

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It was a one off throw away line that made sense in context. Frankly, it's the sort of thing that I would expect from pretty much any monotheist out there

Whatever. It's my favorite line and I'm not all that terribly religious.

I look at a line like that, from Steve Rogers and view it more as that people were not as scornful of religion in the 30s and 40s. I certainly imagine a lot of people in WW2 found some connection to their religious roots in the face of the conflict. It would also be totally fitting that a lot of that mindset rubbed off of Steve the more he lived in the 2000s.

I'm pretty sure it was just a reference to the pledge: "one nation under god."

But that wasn't changed and added in until he'd been frozen for about a decade.

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How so? Aside from the mention of "god" in both, I don't really see the similarities.

*Joss Whedon

Joss Whedon can't write anything that's not a smarmy one-liner

He's an Irish Catholic, and if you want a fave with some other religious views, he's not for you.

I know a lot of people are bothered by this line, but I've always thought he was just joking. At the very least it was light hearted.

I pretend the whole goddamn movie doesn't exist. The characterizations in general were terrible, but Steve was especially egregious. I was so disappointed.

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