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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-13 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3906 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3906 ⌋

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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-09-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You are not listening to me.

You are talking over me.

What I've said calls your world view into question and makes you uncomfortable because you would rather pretend that the world is black and white. It is not.

For all of these reasons, I am ending the conversation here. I said what I meant quite clearly and you don't have the know-how to engage with me respectfully, so we are done.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. Dude. I can't be talking over you, this is my first comment in this section.

What I've said calls your world view into question

Um. What? All you said was that you felt AYRT was trying to tell the OP how to use the word slut. And they were, in so far as they were saying, don't use it as a pejorative because that's shitty. Which is an extremely reasonable thing to say to someone who said something slut-shamey.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
"What I've said calls your world view into question and makes you uncomfortable because you would rather pretend that the world is black and white. It is not."

Uhhh, aren't you telling this person what they think and feel here? Which you seem to have a problem with when you feel it's been done to you?
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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-09-14 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
So you do understand what I'm saying, you're just mad that I'm shifting the paradigm.

That's exactly what I'm doing. When I'm using "you're" I mean it in a general sense to apply to everyone who thinks in a black-and-white dichotomy.

This makes you angry because as a reader, you read it, you internalize it, and you think I'm calling you, specifically, names.

And yet, when you then do the same thing to me, you tell me I'm not allowed to be upset about it.

We have to destroy the idea that language is something that's done to us rather than something we are actively using. I get why people find me confusing and upsetting and why they shout at me. It's because they think I'm condescending and that I think I'm better than them, and they get defensive.

That's not how I see myself. I'm not asking you to agree with me, I am asking you to understand me. But because I make statements that I intend to have interpreted by the person to whom I am speaking as questions, and because the person to whom I am speaking interprets them as statements about who they are as people and how it impacts their self-worth, they want to hurt me.

And yet, when I put it as plainly as: "You're hurting my feelings. You're telling me I'm not allowed to be upset about the fact that you're hurting my feelings, and I get so frustrated about not being understood, I lash out and get angry and want to hurt you back.

When I do that? You tell me I'm manipulative and "twisting your words" and "not understanding you."

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
DA
No you just have a chip on your shoulder and are flipping out at people telling OP not to use a slur out of your personal issues.
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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-09-14 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you feel that way. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
da- you're not being clever you're just being obnoxious and demanding everyone handles you with kid gloves and doesn't judge you based on the snappy one-liner you thought was really cool. get your head out of your ass tbh, that comment of yours talking about how terrible it is people will think they won says it all

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
You have personal issues with this subject, and it's pretty clear that those issues are heavily distorting how you view this entire topic of discussion.

Plus the whole, "You accidentally hurt my feelings so I'm going to deliberately lash out and try to hurt you more!" Are you five? Because if you're not five, grow up.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA, honest to god nothing you are saying makes sense throughout this thread, it's like you're speaking a different language from the rest of us. I truly have no idea what point you're trying to make here. OP was simply trying to remove the stigmatizing and loaded language behind "slut" and say it's not a bad thing to have sexual experience, or several partners. I have literally no idea how someone could object to that.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
honest to god nothing you are saying makes sense throughout this thread, it's like you're speaking a different language from the rest of us. I truly have no idea what point you're trying to make here.

I'm so relieved that you said this. I wasn't sure if maybe it was just me.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
Is it THAT hard just to say, "Oh sorry, I phrased that badly, what I REALLY meant was..."? You know you can't gaslight us into thinking this is where you were all along when your original comment (and all the subsequent batshit ones) is still right there, right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, no one is trying to hurt you, or tell you you're "not allowed" to be upset. I never told you any of that stuff (maybe you're conflating me with a few other anons, though).

You do seem to be trying to tell other people what's going on in their minds though with all the "you understand," "you're mad," and "you read it, you internalize it, and you think I'm calling you, specifically, names." Unless everyone's supposed to interpret those statements as questions?