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You are talking over me.
What I've said calls your world view into question and makes you uncomfortable because you would rather pretend that the world is black and white. It is not.
For all of these reasons, I am ending the conversation here. I said what I meant quite clearly and you don't have the know-how to engage with me respectfully, so we are done.
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 12:06 am (UTC)(link)What I've said calls your world view into question
Um. What? All you said was that you felt AYRT was trying to tell the OP how to use the word slut. And they were, in so far as they were saying, don't use it as a pejorative because that's shitty. Which is an extremely reasonable thing to say to someone who said something slut-shamey.
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 02:52 am (UTC)(link)Uhhh, aren't you telling this person what they think and feel here? Which you seem to have a problem with when you feel it's been done to you?
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That's exactly what I'm doing. When I'm using "you're" I mean it in a general sense to apply to everyone who thinks in a black-and-white dichotomy.
This makes you angry because as a reader, you read it, you internalize it, and you think I'm calling you, specifically, names.
And yet, when you then do the same thing to me, you tell me I'm not allowed to be upset about it.
We have to destroy the idea that language is something that's done to us rather than something we are actively using. I get why people find me confusing and upsetting and why they shout at me. It's because they think I'm condescending and that I think I'm better than them, and they get defensive.
That's not how I see myself. I'm not asking you to agree with me, I am asking you to understand me. But because I make statements that I intend to have interpreted by the person to whom I am speaking as questions, and because the person to whom I am speaking interprets them as statements about who they are as people and how it impacts their self-worth, they want to hurt me.
And yet, when I put it as plainly as: "You're hurting my feelings. You're telling me I'm not allowed to be upset about the fact that you're hurting my feelings, and I get so frustrated about not being understood, I lash out and get angry and want to hurt you back.
When I do that? You tell me I'm manipulative and "twisting your words" and "not understanding you."
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 06:49 am (UTC)(link)No you just have a chip on your shoulder and are flipping out at people telling OP not to use a slur out of your personal issues.
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:41 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 07:05 am (UTC)(link)Plus the whole, "You accidentally hurt my feelings so I'm going to deliberately lash out and try to hurt you more!" Are you five? Because if you're not five, grow up.
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:06 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)I'm so relieved that you said this. I wasn't sure if maybe it was just me.
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(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 09:01 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)You do seem to be trying to tell other people what's going on in their minds though with all the "you understand," "you're mad," and "you read it, you internalize it, and you think I'm calling you, specifically, names." Unless everyone's supposed to interpret those statements as questions?