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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-22 05:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3915 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3915 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ranma 1/2]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/HGZwElL.jpg
[linked for nudity, Craig Parker playing Gaius Claudius Glaber in Spartacus: Vengeance, "Monsters"]


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[Pree, Killjoys]


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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]


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08. [WARNING for discussion of rape/murder]

[Lastman]













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(Anonymous) 2017-09-22 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, I'm guessing here; Dune? If so ... Sexist, yeah, pretty much. Racist? I'd say that Herbert appropriated some stuff from, possibly, Tuareg culture, or other northern African desert culture, and that could be problematic. Racist, though? Not sure about that.

Of course, if this isn't about Dune, never mind. Ahem.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-22 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Looks like Dune, yeah.

Don't forget homophobic, with the Baron Harkonnen, stereotyped villain who likes young men, finds the hero attractive. Herbert was homophobic, could never come to terms with it. One of his sons was estranged because of it. Very sad.
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[personal profile] rosehiptea 2017-09-22 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the homophobia definitely comes through. But I didn't actually know that about his son. That is sad.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-22 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, man, that is sad. To let hate break up a family relationship is tragic.

I'd forgotten Baron Harkonnen, and you're right, although when I first read it, back in my long-ago and unaware youth, I focused more on the sadism and the coerced pedophilia than the homophobia. It's really inescapable once it's pointed out.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-22 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ayrt

Yeah, a read through I did a few years ago, I felt that the Baron was a homophobic stereotype. Later I found some stuff on Herbert that confirmed this. I had already pinned his portrayal of Irulan as misogynist- he really seemed to hate this character, was apparently trying to convey that Irulan was a certain kind of woman that he disliked intensely. It was more tell than show. That wasn't obvious at first because Jessica Atreides seemed to be a good complex strong woman, but then how he portrayed and treated Alia, yeah, it all started clicking together, the misogyny and the homophobia. The Baron had to be a bad stereotype.