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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-25 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3918 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3918 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Dance Moms)


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[In Treatment]


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[Life]


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[glee & buffy the vampire slayer]


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[Hinterlands]











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Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Hetalia -> Homestuck -> Steven Universe -> Undertale -> Voltron

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds about right to me, yeah. Though, I feel like there was something in between Homestuck and Steven Universe, but I can't put my finger on what.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
My Little Pony? OFF? Inazuma Eleven? Tiger & Bunny?

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
OFF fandom was sort of an offshoot of Undertale's, so that would have come later. Hmmmm... maybe I'm imagining it, haha. I can't think of it at all.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No, OFF was first, then Undertale.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Gravity Falls? I know a lot of wank involved 'outing' Voltron fans as former Billdip shippers.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, maybe that was it. Little bit that, little bit Over the Garden Wall. Though admittedly I don't remember either of those fandoms being awful, I was also taking a pretty big fandom sabbatical at the time so I might have just missed it, haha.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Megamind, the Lorax, and Avengers should be in there somewhere.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-26 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Dangan Ronpa! Feel like DMMD needs to be somewhere in there as well.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-27 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
You're right that there's a gap between HS and Steven Universe, but the thing is that it isn't just one fandom. The ex-homestucks basically spread out into multiple anime/cartoon/game flash-in-the-pan fandoms, spamming the tags for months before burning out and moving onto the next obsession until SU came along and they had a steady fandom to gradually ruin.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it, is this a chart from bad to worse?

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hated mega fandom migratory pattern.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The migration pattern of the super-shitty locust fans, lol.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This seems like a pretty standard thing where works with similar appeal will appeal to similar sorts of people. And so the problems associated with those people recur as well. It's not really a "migratory fandom", as such. It's hardly unique either.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Those fandoms were(/are) all uniquely terrible, though. They all epitomize the grotesque callout/"SJ" type fan behavior-- and it certainly was migratory, with a lot of the same people (honestly, named users and such) following from one to the next.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that they're terrible in similar ways, partly because of the same people being in them, partly because of similarities within the fandoms. And, yeah, I agree that it sucks when things have shitty fans. But I just don't see where having shitty fans is unique, or even having fans behaving shittily in the fandoms of multiple similar shows is unique.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the difference is that in these particular fandoms, the shitty fans are genuinely the majority. In most, they're a loud but annoying minority, but just blocking a tiny handful of people takes care of most of it. In these fandoms, there's honestly no keeping up with it. There are so many shitty people. I think that's the unique aspect to them.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
But fans of the old thing moving onto the new shiny thing because it is very similar is like the definition of migratory.

Like, migratory juggernaut slash ship fandom was a thing and I accept that because I was part of it. People need to accept that migratory shit animation/web comic fandom is a thing too.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-26 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
But it's not like they pick up and do it en masse. In fact, even saying that they "move on" is a little inaccurate - it's not like it's impossible to be fans of more than one thing at a time. They're more overlapping fandoms. They're not locusts.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-26 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think there are some fans that do genuinely "move on", because they are more interested in being involved in the most active fandom (and therefore getting the most hits, comments, likes, reposts, etc etc). As for the rest of the fans - well, there are overlaps, so in that way you are right and it's not as exactly accurate as I initially said it was. But it is a persuasive metaphor that I think accurately describes how fandoms change their focus (and definitely describes the phenomenon from an outsider's POV).

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dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Is this right?

[personal profile] dahli 2017-09-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like Undertale should come before Steven Universe. Or maybe it's because SU has a lot of hiatuses and the migration happened between them? Also is this anime/comic related only? Because if not, I think Dream Daddy and Star Wars need a mention.

Also Hamilton. I forgot about Hamilton.
Edited 2017-09-25 23:32 (UTC)

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Dream Daddy is more of a flash in the pan. It doesn't have the long term staying pattern the above.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Is this right?

[personal profile] dahli 2017-09-26 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Point.

I still see some slight wank about it here and there, though.

Re: Is this right?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-26 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I thought so too until I looked up dates. SU came out in 2013 and Undertale in 2015. Homestuck had the the year-long Gigpause starting October 2013. It was prime time for the fandom shift to happen.

So funny enough, Homestuck fans jumped out of the fandom due to hiatus... to be sent into another fandom with them.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Is this right?

[personal profile] dahli 2017-09-26 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Whaaaaaaaaaat? Jesus, it really doesn't even feel that long ago!