[ SECRET POST #3919 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3919 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Magnus Archives Podcast]


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[saiyuki reload blast]


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[Somali to Mori no Kami-sama]


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[Christopher from an old season of Project Runway]


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[Tusk]


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[David Tennant and Michael Sheen in Good Omens]













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Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/dPOC86X.jpg
[Christopher from an old season of Project Runway]

[(Anonymous)]

I don't watch this show nor do I know a damn thing about fashion but yeah, "blood orange" evokes a particular shade of orange/red. Nothing pretentious about it, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

there's absolutely nothing inherently pretentious about the color blood orange. I guess you could use it in a pretentious fashion but if you're just describing the color of something, no. How else would you describe "orangier than tomato red but redder than a typical orange?" Would he prefer it described as light cadmium red?

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I thought "blood orange" was the colour of the inner flesh of a blood orange, which is a pretty dark red. I'd probably call an orangier shade of tomato "red-orange" over "blood orange," myself, but that's not as fancy.

I don't know the context. If she used the term "blood orange" for something that was a really different shade of red, then it is a kind of pretentious mistake. But you can't really see colours as they are in real life on a television screen.

Anyway, the way he says it seems sort of smugly ignorant.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, this. The inner flesh of a blood orange is not very orange.

[(Anonymous)]

That's because, despite people claiming they hate the meme because blood orange is a more specific color than red and she was just referring to it by its "correct" name and any serious designer should know that, many "pretentious" color names don't actually have a standard meaning.

The color version of the gifset pictured in the secret: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e3/70/6b/e3706b954720a254b950a21dea759d2e.jpg

[fishnchips]

We could absolutely speak in more precise pigment names and there still would be debate over the actual colours behind it. Even descriptors like "sapphire" isn't a precise description for a certain shade of blue because there actually are yellow sapphires as well.

Personally, I did find the meme funny in the beginning because that female designer WAS a pretentious person throughout that season... but I got tired of it because the guy is no less pretentious and his catty comments were only funny for so long. If you look at the scene (and it's even pretty clear from the picture you posted), the female designer never insisted that yes, this particular shade of red can only be correctly referred to as blood orange. Instead, she used it to give an approximantion to more closely refer to this shade of red with a description she thought was fitting in that moment.
And obviously, those names don't have a standard meaning. But if you're active in the fashion business, you should at the very least be used to this - he just had a problem with it because he didn't like her.

[(Anonymous)]

How the fabric in the gifset appears to us is a matter of screen configuration. However, I felt that the fabric was far less orange than the text color OP used for their secret.

Ultimately, arguing over whether or not getting pretentious about color names makes you a better designer is about as useful as using your opinion on Dean Winchester's hair color as a metric for how good you are at writing.

[fishnchips]

Yes? That's why I said it's a matter of opinion and her opinion seems to be that the colour is "blood orange", whether or not that's objectively true (which you can't really say).
I also never said anything about him being a good designer or not. I'm saying calling someone pretentious over a colour description when you're no less pretentious is kind of hypocritical.

[(Anonymous)]

Then I'm not entirely sure what you think your original comment had to do with my original comment, but okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this bothered me too.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the Christophers/Joshs seem pretty egotistical, pretentious and shallow... imo. You hope it's just a play for television. They talk the same way and have almost the same haircut/faceshape/hair color. And I wonder what the casting designers/producers were thinking to have the same personalities season after season after season.

It can be pretty funny sometimes but in that faintly ridiculous hysterical funny. Not the "oh it's really amusing funny."

Mila, Anthony Ryan, Dimitry, Brandon and Mondo get the blame for this season's whacky picks. Casting has gone down hill since Kors left. It really has.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it became a meme because the other designer was pretentious in general, even if in that particular moment she may not have actually been being pretentious. Her loftily calling a basic red piece of fabric (whose color was, or at least appeared to be in the widely reblogged gifset, only notable in how unremarkably red it was) ~blood orange~ was just the cherry on top of a season full of obnoxiousness.

Either that or because the majority of people who reblogged that gifset don't actually care about Project Runway, and just thought it was funny because of his delivery.

[(Anonymous)]

This. It was a slightly orange-y red, but mostly it looked red to me.

[ninety6tears]

YES. I've never watched the season, but I've always wondered if this guy knows what a blood orange is. It's not this totally pretentious way to describe a color.

[fishnchips]

It reminded me of my father so very much, who kept (and keeps) grumbling about how apricot is for eating, not a colour. It's something I expect from a grumpy old man who doesn't know shit about colours but ... a designer? It really annoyed me.
I mean, sure, we could be talking only in basic kindergarten-level colours, but that wouldn't be very precise in fashion, would it.

[(Anonymous)]

"Kindergarten-level colours" is a great way to describe it. It's amazing how many grown men insist that those are the only colours.

[fishnchips]

It's generally grown men with no interest in art or design who just love posturing because ugh, ~colours~ that's such a dumb ~girly~ thing amiright!
It gets weird when it's grown men who actually have an interest or a profession based in arts or design like in this case here. I've also seen it happen with guys who are super into car mods, who oooh and ahhh about certain metallic colours and everything... and then turn around and declare other colours in fashion design "silly".

Now, I'll admit that I've seen truly outlandish colour decriptions in fashion catalogues and online shops. Thing that are just honestly silly - mostly because the person who made up the colour apparently has no clue what the colour they used as the descriptor looks like. But that's not the case here.

[illiadandoddity]

Are you me, OP? I dye fabric as part of my job and that has ALWAYS pissed me off. THAT PARTICULAR SHADE OF RED IS CALLED BLOOD ORANGE. It's not pretentious for a professional in the industry to call a color by its correct fucking name.

[soldatsasha]

Is that Dmitry in the background? Man, I am STILL SALTY that he didn't win, he was one of the only contestants to ever make me feel like inspired by fashion or whatever. So you are not alone in still being mad about this season, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

::headtilt:: I may be taking crazy pills, but I distinctly remember Dmitry won both seasons he appeared on.

[soldatsasha]

No, you're not, I am. I knew he'd won his All Stars thing, but I watched season 8 and 10 concurrently with a friend and I always get them mixed up in my head. We were both so pissed off about Season 8 (I mean, Gretchen??!?!) and all the changes in the show at that point. And then they kept focusing on designers who brought nothing to the table but drama and coming up with stupider and stupider challenges ("you've got two hours, the clothes on your back, and a bottle of Elmer's glue, IMPRESS US DESIGNERS!") that only displayed how well a designer could do grade-school craft projects rather than FASHION and uuuuggghhhh

[(Anonymous)]

Fun fact: Men can't see all different shades of colors like women do and/or distinguish them. So basically, that guy can't see the real color of the fabric and instead just sees it as "red":

http://didyouknowfacts.com/psst-hey-men-theres-color-cant-see/