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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-27 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3920 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3920 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, there are many women like this in the real world, so I'd find it strange if no female protagonists ever held this viewpoint. It'd still be misogynistic if all female protagonists were always perfectly enlightened and perfectly supportive of their Awesome Lady friends.

The narrative reinforcing the idea that she really is superior to other women is one thing, but "has issues with other women" is a perfectly valid (and realistic) character flaw.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Except that Anita's major issues with other women is not presented as a character flaw. It's presented as Anita being unique in her gender by not being a backstabby bitch, and as Anita being correct to assume that other women are backstabby bitches by mostly showing you non-Anita female characters as acting like backstabby bitches, for Reasons, which totally justifies Anita's worldview and special snowflakeness.

I tend to think that it's what OP assumes - that the problem lies with the author's frighteningly negative attitude about women.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I made my comment under the belief that the comments I was replying to weren't talking about Anita Blake specifically.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
so I'd find it strange if no female protagonists ever held this viewpoint

Well lucky for you, this viewpoint is common as fuck for female characters in most media, to the point where a female character supporting other women is a goddamn rarity. It's also never treated as a character flaw.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
I've never once seen a piece of fiction that acknowledged this as a flaw tbh

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, okay? It's still a realistic flaw even if most writers' heads are too far up their asses to notice.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
nyart

I feel like you're missing the point a bit. People don't mind characters with realistic flaws. We mind authors that won't see them as a flaws. You know why? Because it shows a lack of awareness. Which, at best, means the authors won't do anything interesting with the flaw, and at worst will treat it like a virtue. Either way we end up with a tired cliché instead of an interesting character.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
By all means, continue ignoring the actual context of my comment. You seem to be having fun.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'm now honestly confused. If your point isn't "it's realistic" or "women in real life have this flaw", then what is?