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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-30 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3923 ⌋

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[Close Your Eyes]


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[Brooklyn 99]


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[Daredevil, Vanessa Marianna/Wilson Fisk]


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[Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman]


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[A Wrinkle In Time, the forthcoming film]


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[FullMetal Alchemist]













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(Anonymous) 2017-09-30 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
But being gay is central to Holt's identity. It shows in the rainbow flag he keeps on his desk, or the way his experiences as the first openly gay black cop in the eighties shaped his personality and still influences his interactions with the rest of the cast.

So in canon being gay is certainly central to Holt's identity, but looking at the show and the character as a piece of entertainment it is not. And I would say that unless the canon's cemtral theme is about being queer that really is the best way to write a queer character ("queer" as a catch-all term for every character that is not straight).

(Anonymous) 2017-09-30 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Being gay IS Important to Holt's character - much of his drive as captain and his strict adherence to rules is specifically attributed to the fact that he faced so much discrimination as a black gay cop, he had to work at least twice as hard and feels his command is going to be doubly scrutinized.

But he also has a personality that makes him a fully fleshed out character that aren't related to these facts - he is serious, deadpan, overly intellectual, etc. He is an example of writing that carefully balances how important his sexuality is to the character, but also makes sure he has traits besides that fact.

Sort of like, there are plenty of jokes revolving around Holt's sexuality, but few to none poking fun AT his sexuality.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
to be clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with Holt's representation, or with characters where their sexuality -is- secondary, just that I hate this bizarre regressive swing where we try so far to go away from stereotypes that make being ~gay~ the focus that we end up at a place where a gay character performing any kind of gayness (for lack of a better term) is considered negative.