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fandomsecrets2017-09-30 03:47 pm
[ SECRET POST #3923 ]
⌈ Secret Post #3923 ⌋
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[Close Your Eyes]
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[Brooklyn 99]
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[Daredevil, Vanessa Marianna/Wilson Fisk]
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[Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman]
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[A Wrinkle In Time, the forthcoming film]
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[FullMetal Alchemist]
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Re: Movie Club Discussion!
(Anonymous) 2017-09-30 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)Initially I wasn't expecting to be blown away, but I have pretty low standards for enjoying animated movies and was expecting to have fun. I found it very well done and very moving and enjoyed it a great deal more than I thought.
2. Who was your favorite character in the movie? Your least favorite character? Why?
Most - Maui, because I am a sucker for a good redemption arc and he was hilarious. I've seen criticism of har har why didn't the ocean just take the heart back huh?!?! Because that wasn't the only goal. The problem going on was Maui had let his insecurities and need to be loved twist him to the point he was willing to attack a goddess in hopes this time it would fill the empty place inside. Putting the heart back wouldn't fix that, he needed redemption and to learn from his mistakes so he could continue to be a hero, not a villain.
Least - Pua. Sorry Pua, you were a generic saccharin animal sidekick and I'm so glad they went with the Too Dumb To Live HeiHei instead.
3. What was your favorite scenes? Your least favorite? Why?
... That's hard.
Favorites - We Know The Way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZrAmRxy_M
Song of the Ancestors - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9qw2vN-bgk
Know Who You Are - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QuKwfv6Wk
The last one especially is just... I cry every time. I cried looking up the clip even though I've seen it dozens of times. I think it's especially a powerful moment because up until now Te Fiti has been a sexy lamp. She's been a passive plot point. Her heart was taken and now it needs to be taken back to this location and put back in place and wheee everything is right. And then the movie twists that and you see her and you see her rage and her suffering and it hits you that she's a person in pain and not just a quest point.
Probably least favorites - After Where You Are, but before Moana leaves. It's important cinematically to establish what she's leaving behind and what she needs to protect, but it's the least exciting part of the movie.
4. What did you think of the soundtrack and/or score?
I really loved the music. The songs were all musically distinctive while showcasing Lin-Manuel Miranda's talent at clever wordplay. I felt like the songs were all power-houses. I also want to say I am ridiculously grateful for Frozen here. I heard that in the making of Frozen, Disney wanted Let It Go to be a standard protag-song. Soft, pretty, wistful. The people making it fought and fought and fought to let Idina Menzel belt it out with passion instead. Eventually Disney reluctantly gave in. And we know how that turned out! So I feel like without that trailblazing battle against Disney's formula, we would not have the stunning performance Auli'i Cravalho gave. We would not have her just screaming out "I AM MOANA!" triumphantly at the end of I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)"
I couldn't possibly pick a favorite, I love them all.
My one criticism, the song lyrics that love to do similar lines with slight variations bug me because I get them jumbled and they get stuck in my head later.
See the line where the sky meets the sea? It calls me
See the light as it shines on the sea? It's blinding
See her light up the night in the sea? She calls me
That! It's hard to keep them straight in my head.
5. What did you think of the cinematography?
I thought it was very well done. Some of the shots that stand out in particular are when Moana is standing alone on the top of the entrance to Lalotai and a lot of the Te Ka battle. The water and ocean were animated beautifully too.
This wasn't just a beautiful and fun movie, it was very well plotted too. I love Frozen dearly, but the plot is a mess. I feel like both the Kakamora fight and the brief foray into Lalotai were important to establish that this world is magical and yes, all the stories are real. The Kakamora were also important because it showed a very real threat roaming the ocean and showing why the boats stopped coming back, and a lot of the fancy sailing Maui shows off there is what Moana later uses to get past Te Ka. And I love Tamatoa, lovelovelove. He was a fantastic fun evil villain with style and a great song and his needless exposition had me cracking up the entire time, but they knew not to drag the joke on too long. "You cannot run from me! Oh, you *can* run from me! You keep surprising me!"
Little details I liked, both the father and Maui had some painful backstory going on, but while Moana was a catalyst, it wasn't her job to fix them. They worked through their issues off screen. I didn't even realize Te Fiti was Tahiti until I saw it pointed out. I loved when the ancestor chief touched his shell and nodded to Moana. (makes me wonder since grandma had it, if Moana's dad refused it after the boat accident, not wanting to be reminded of their history) I loved HeiHei so much. I know people who keep chickens and they just went nuts when they watched it, they loved the derpy chicken portrayal so much.
If I could have changed anything it would be a teenie thing, instead of her dad listing of "My father and his father and his father..." Just change one to 'mother' to make it not weird that Moana's going to be the next chief.
It's a movie that I notice and find something new to think on every time I watch it.
Re: Movie Club Discussion!
I agree completely about the Know Who You Are sequence. That was also the part I watched multiple times. I loved how monstrous Te Fiti looked running towards her. And the forehead touch is just so cool.
A small thing I love was when Te Fiti put her hand into the earth to regrow stuff. It was very satisfying looking.
Re: Movie Club Discussion!
(Anonymous) 2017-10-02 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)It takes the usual Disney Acid Trip Song and makes it fit canon? Because I assumed it was Maui being a trickster and using magic to dazzle Moana, and that's why it gets progressively more 'cartoony' as the song goes on. Then she spell is broken and she realizes she's been tricked.
It's braggy, but it's also gloriously douchey too. "I did something nice for you a long time ago, be grateful" comes across as the jerkass roommate you ask to take out the trash and he spends ten minutes whining that he washed a dish last month you should still be thanking him for that, not asking him for more. It also beautifully sets up Maui's character flaw, that he's been doing things for fame not because he feels they're right, and that's why he was also willing to do a bad thing for fame.
It's way too late and no one will see this, but I wanted to type it up.