[ SECRET POST #3923 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3923 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Close Your Eyes]


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[Brooklyn 99]


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[Daredevil, Vanessa Marianna/Wilson Fisk]


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[Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman]


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[A Wrinkle In Time, the forthcoming film]


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[FullMetal Alchemist]













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Comments

Re: What frustrates you about people "on your side"?

[(Anonymous)]

The issue I have with it is specifically targeting two white ladies, when guys are opening up "Illegal Pete's" to serve burritos.

I mean, I don't think that "Illegal Pete's" is great either, I just haven't... you know... heard of it. Which I think is likely true of many of the other people involved. I would certainly object to it in the same sense. It's in part an effect of the same cultural systems that we agree are the problem.

And I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find a restaurant that doesn't appropriate from a culture other than the owner's. A movie theater that doesn't serve nachos, a Vietnamese place that doesn't serve Coke or Pepsi, and then there's going back and deciding how far back to draw the line at appropriation? Should we ban nutmeg? Tomatoes in Italian food?

I take your point, but I'm not sure this is an entirely fair summary of what people mean when they talk about appropriation and food. I think it's just as much about the narratives as it is about ingredients and techniques - in this case, the narrative of "we're going to go down to Mexico and bring the food back for you" and authenticity and stuff like that. I don't think that talking about cultural appropriation and food necessarily entails a demand for strict cultural purity.

Re: What frustrates you about people "on your side"?

[(Anonymous)]

I think it kind of proves my point though that misogyny is a huge factor in why this one foodcart incident blew up as big as it did.

It's like looking at the fact white people make up the majority of drug users and dealers, but POC make up the majority of arrests, and shrugging off that you don't think the police are pro white-drugs or arguing if POC should have a free pass to do drugs.

I saw something that really struck me once. It was a comment talking about the current call-out culture and it said the biggest issue it had with it was being able to shake off call-outs was the definition of privilege. That some rich white frat boy accused of being transphobic is going to laugh and high-five his bros and go on with his life, but a queer POC girl is going to lose her 'woke' friends and suffer a great deal more. It's a system designed to hurt the least privileged the most.

Re: What frustrates you about people "on your side"?

[(Anonymous)]

I think it kind of proves my point though that misogyny is a huge factor in why this one foodcart incident blew up as big as it did.

I don't know how you narrow down how much of it is misogyny and how much of it is it getting reported in the news randomly.

It was a comment talking about the current call-out culture and it said the biggest issue it had with it was being able to shake off call-outs was the definition of privilege. That some rich white frat boy accused of being transphobic is going to laugh and high-five his bros and go on with his life, but a queer POC girl is going to lose her 'woke' friends and suffer a great deal more. It's a system designed to hurt the least privileged the most.

But the problem is that your response to that can't just be "Well, let's never criticize things that are bad". If the underlying critiques are bad, we have to be able to talk to them. A series of small decisions to let people slide on things because we like them is literally what the system of privilege is.

Now obviously we can talk about how we go about doing this and the conversations that we have and the systems that we use to do it in. But just saying that there's misogyny there isn't an argument against the validity of the critiques.