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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-16 04:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #528 ]


⌈ Secret Post #528 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

A little early because I'm really tired...

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 266 secrets from Secret Submission Post #076.
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Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I never read the forums or learned much about the author when I was reading, but from what my friend (who was and still is hugely into it) tells me, she's a cool enough person.

This could be way off base, but the whole "she's a bitch because she snarks at cruelly critical fans" attitude doesn't seem to apply to male authors/creators-- whenever I see people do it, at least in real life, it always smacks of (usually unintentional) sexism to me. Common American thinking dictates that it's okay/cool for a man to be sarcastic and cut people down (sometimes if they haven't even done anything), but not for a woman to do so. Again, maybe I'm reading too far into it...

I'll probably start reading again at some point, but honestly, the point at which I stopped was just kind of...emotionally disturbing to me. Which is, I think, the mark of a good author, but no less difficult to read.

Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] popelizbet.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
MU has had those emotionally disturbing moments for me too, but I think overall it does well. And I do think there's often an element of sexism to the author/creator criticism thing, just judging at some of the things that have gotten thrown at her on the comments, on f_s comments before now. (I am not saying that the OC necessarily dislikes her for sexist reasons, but the disparity is definitely there in the general reaction.) Milholland is way, way, way mean to his fans in his taglines and blogs when they tell him how to run his business or write his comic, but I rarely see him characterized as a dick, and from what I hear he's a good con guest. I think female sarcasm in a "thank you for telling me how to do the job I do, not like I've never heard that before" type way much, much more frequently reads as bitchiness than it does when a male creator says the same type of thing.


You should come play with us at [livejournal.com profile] shangy_feminism sometime. :D
Edited 2008-06-17 03:43 (UTC)

Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think I might. Looks like a neat community. :D

Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] popelizbet.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
T'anks! We are small, which sometimes limits our discussion and I'm always trying to bring new voices into the community to share their things they find along the way, which is kind of what shangy_feminism has evolved into: a place where feminists of various stripes come and think out loud, drop off something that gave them thoughts, just - keep the discussion going.

Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Well, I'll tell some friends, then. :D

Re: 160, random comment

[identity profile] popelizbet.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Do it! Thank you! :D