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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-01 03:49 pm
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(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to be too snarky here but like... isn't that just mystery novels?
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[personal profile] malurette 2017-10-01 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably, but how many good ones fitting the bill are there actually?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The James Patterson Women's Murder Club series started out that way. They were pretty good for a while.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I read quite a few mystery novels and... sadly no. OP seems to be referring specifically to the group adventure aspect of the Nancy Drew books. Most modern mysteries are either rather dark and graphic, gloomy/angsty/gothic, or features a romance as part of the plot. The crazy adventure stuff tends to feature mostly male protagonists, where any female characters are the girlfriend, wife or love interest.


(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, most of them do include romance, so I get where they're coming from.

There's always a will they/won't they thing between the detective/FBI agent/whatever partners, or there are spouses/significant others at home who are eventually threatened/kidnapped by a serial killer, or one of the detectives is divorced/has just gotten out of a bad relationship and meets someone new they like in the course of investigating a case and the person is ~mysterious~ and they don't know if they can trust them or if they're involved with whatever crime they're investigating, or there's a relationship with one of the detectives and the boss and of course that's not allowed so it's gotta be a big secret, or one of the detective's significant other/spouse was recently murdered by someone they were investigating, or killed in some way that the detective feels like it's their fault, and so even though the SO is no longer around, they might as well be because story pretty much revolves around them because the detective is out for revenge and there are constant annoying "romantic" flashbacks of the detective and SO together and that basically defines the detective's character. And those are just the relatively common situations I can think of off the top of my head.

A mystery/detective story with no romance is super rare. Actually, I'm not sure I can even think of a single one, and I read a ton of mysteries.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
'No romances between or involving the leads' is true of like 90% of Agatha Christie's books.

Granted, it's difficult to not include any romance between suspects and side characters when that's the sort of thing that tends to cast suspicion on people because they provide motivations for crimes

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Agatha Christie is just one author, with a finite body of works.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
...she is indeed, is that some sort of problem?

"A mystery/detective story with no romance is super rare. Actually, I'm not sure I can even think of a single one, and I read a ton of mysteries."

"Here's an author whose body of work is mostly not involving romance, since you sound interested in that."

???

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I just mean, it's kind of bizarre to assume that someone who reads "a ton" of mysteries is unaware of the existence of Christie*, and the existence of one author whose works fit AYRT's parameters doesn't much help with the problem of works that fit those parameters being rare overall.

*I mean, I don't want to make any assumptions here and maybe they are, but I would find it pretty shocking.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I suggested it because it sounded from the mentions of detectives, FBI, and agents, that they were reading mainly modern mystery, which I agree has gone away from 'Mystery' and more into 'Romance/Drama with a mystery involved in the plot.'

They also mentioned they couldn't think of a single book. Which if they were familiar with Christie they probably could?

You'd be surprised how many people aren't familiar with older novels.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Sorry, I should've been more specific.

Yes, those definitely count, and I think there are other older mysteries that would count as well.

For some reason I was thinking more modern books. I should've mentioned that.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Ah yeah, I just mentioned above, I agree with you about modern mystery. OP in general might be better off looking at older novels which weren't as focused on 'sex sells'.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-02 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I see you, Agatha Christie secret anon, lol...

(Anonymous) 2017-10-01 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon, I laughed. You've summed up the plots of 90% of TV mysteries that I've watched.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-02 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Several of Sue Grafton's books don't have a romance. But Kinsey Millhone doesn't generally have pals following her around, either.
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