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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-09 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #3932 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3932 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always kind of wondered why non-shippers even bother with fandom. It seems like it would just be an excercise in frustration. Sure, there's gen fic here and there, but in most fandoms like 95% of fanfic is shippy to some degree, and that's pretty much how fandom has been for as long as I can remember.

I love fandom specifically because I'm a shipper to the core. If I weren't, I'm not sure what fandom could really offer me.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
There's more to fandom than shipping.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Is there?

In all seriousness, though, I never claimed fandom was 100% shipping. But in every fandom I've been in, shipping has been the main course, so to speak, and it seems like a lot of Do Not Want for a non-shipper to go through in order to get to the other bits, which are often treated as entirely secondary anyway.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-10 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Generally the blogs I read are mostly about squeeing over what's due out next month.

EDIT: And squeeing over the people who can pull off arts, crafts, and cosplay.
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(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, ok, I was more talking about the type of fans who read fanfic, since the secret makes it sound like OP reads/used to read quite a bit of fanfic, and fanfic does tend to be a huge and integral part of fandom for a lot of people.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Homestuck I'd say got up to as much as 10-20% non-ship content in places - meta, fantrolls, worldbuilding, etc. You wouldn't necessarily have a lot of fics with no ships, but you did have a decent chunk of fic that was plot-heavy and shipping wasn't necessarily the main focus of it.

Like, there was metric fucktons of shipping for sure, but there were other things around too. That was an anomaly in my experience, but I'm a major shipper too, so I wasn't seeking out other stuff often.
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[personal profile] sockes 2017-10-10 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think it really depends on the fandom and, to a lesser degree, the site you're browsing on. Spider-Man: Homecoming, for example, has a lot of fic that might contain some romance but is mostly focused on team or family relationships.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2017-10-10 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I can ship but a lot of my fandom time is spent more on theory-creation for character's motivations and possible future scenarios. It's not really frustrating for me since I've found enough people to interact with on that level.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
There's more to fandom than fanfic, though. There's meta discussions, cons, cosplay and fanart (not all of which is ship-centric) and just the warm feeling of being among people who enjoy a show or movie that you also like. And there is the occasional genfic, or perhaps a shippy fic that's got a decent plot so that you don't mind the romance as much because there's something else to sink your teeth into- though that's fairly rare.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
In the fandoms I've been in, a large percentage of the meta and the fanart were shippy as well. That still leaves cons and cosplay, but those things seem more like the fancy occasion stuff, rather than everyday fannishness.

I mean, it's clear that plenty of people still enjoy fandom even if shipping bores or bothers them. But I'll just have to take those people's word for it. Personally, I love fandom so much because my interests tend to be right in line with what fandom is into. If that weren't the case, I'd probably just dip my foot in now and then.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
This is true, but in some fandoms 5% of fic is a huge amount. Also there's a fair bit of fic that has shipping, but also has a lot of other things in it, like plot, character development, friendships and families, and whump. I'll read a lot of ship-fic if it's got some good whump in it.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-10 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's you, though. You know that saying about how when you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail? For those of us who aren't hardcore shippers who are primarily interested in shipping, there's still plenty about fandom that looks interesting. You may not realize it because that's not your cup of tea, but it doesn't mean there's no point in fandom for us.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-11 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
For those of us who aren't hardcore shippers who are primarily interested in shipping, there's still plenty about fandom that looks interesting.

There's plenty about fandom besides shipping that I enjoy as well, and I never said otherwise. But nevertheless, a huge percentage of fandom is shipping. Personally, I enjoy the huge chunk of fandom that's shipping, and I also enjoy the chunk that's not shipping. Whereas for people who don't enjoy shipping, it just seems like a pretty poor ratio of stuff you like to stuff you don't. Like, why bother? Why not just stick with original fiction where you don't have to put up with a huge amount of shipping in order to get to the stuff you like?