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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-12 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3935 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3935 ⌋

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Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That they're white. Okay so I get the issue in media as a whole, I totally do. But that doesn't really change the fact that thsee particular characters are white. Full stop, end of story. Everything else is just a sad attempt to shoehorn in an element that does not exist.
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Re: Dark skin headcanons

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2017-10-12 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it sad? I mean....i think its an interesting thing to imagine if the characters were a different race.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't that interesting unless people do something with it. Otherwise it is no more interesting than imagining Hermione with blonde hair.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What about imagining that a het character is bi

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Not a good example. If *all* they're doing is a palette swap, then the equivalent would be making a het character bi, having them have all their canon het ships and zero gay ships or attractions or thoughts or history, and changing nothing else so the only hint that they're bi is the creator's word.

And that, while a nice thought, doesn't change the story at all. And would be a pretty bad character to represent bi people with. Speaking as a bi person.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's a fair representation of the fic or art in question, though
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Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it was a fair summary of the fanworks in question when that anon said it, either.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I wasn't talking about the fic or art in question, I was talking about your example and it being bad.

The original anon you were replying to made the point that if you change something and it makes no difference, there's no point to it.

You gave the example of changing a het person to a bi person, insinuating that the same story could happen if they were word-of-god bi. I'm saying even if you made them word-of-god* bi, if it never makes a difference at all, there's no point to it and anon is still right.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
NA:

For me, yeah, it's potentially interesting. And I'm not going to get in the way of other people's head canons. (Go, have fun, make something beautiful if you can.)

But it keeps niggling at me, this particular one, because if Harry had some kind of Indian heritage, wouldn't his interactions with Parvati and Padma be different? Somewhere? Anywhere?

So, eh, why I'm not joining in with it, I guess.

Re: Dark skin headcanons

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, I don't think that having a PoC-headcanon means that characters being white bothers you in a specific way. I think people probably do think that there aren't enough POC characters, and I think they like having POC characters, but that's not the same thing.

Second, it seems generally weird to insist on textuality in a fandom space. I don't really understand it. It feels like an isolated exception to the way that fandom works to demand textual rigor in this specific case. It's a little baffling to me. There are plenty of times in fandom where fans will either reimagine a text in ways that aren't textually supported, or will interpret an ambiguous text in the ways that they want to interpret it, and I think that's both generally fine, and part and parcel of fandom, and I don't get why it would bother you.

If anyone is insisting that those characters are canonically POC, then yes, they are incorrect to do so, but that doesn't seem to be what we're talking about here.

So it's just kind of confusing to me.