[ SECRET POST #3938 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3938 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Yakuza Kiwami]


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03.
[Fast and Furious feud, The Rock vs. Vin Diesel]


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04.
[The X-Files]


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05.
[Urashiman]


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06.
[Chris Hemsworth]


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[Cuphead]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 40 secrets from Secret Submission Post #564.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

This. I saw something recently on how fic had a duty to 'address the inherent problematic aspects of a pairing' and I just....

People can if they want to? But I don't want to click on a hetfic and get some ten page essay on the inherent power imbalances between men and women in a patriarchal society and how that influences the very concept of consent when women are socialized to default to agreement and so on and so forth.

Also, it's awfully convenient how generally the ships someone likes need next to no 'addressing of inherent problematic aspects' but less well liked ones are held to much higher standards.

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

"Your ship is problematic trash, but mine is two precious cinnamon rolls in love, therefore I win."

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that you need to explicitly address the issues in every single fic with the pairing. I think you do need to be cognizant of the issues. You need to be aware of them. And I think it's reasonable to make those points - in a friendly, nuanced, and reasonable way - in fandom spaces, and it is a valid grounds for friendly, nuanced, and reasonable criticism if people are writing fic that doesn't do that. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that, for instance, a fic where rape leads directly to love is flawed and problematic in some sense, because I think it is.

Also, it's awfully convenient how generally the ships someone likes need next to no 'addressing of inherent problematic aspects' but less well liked ones are held to much higher standards.

I mean, it's not great, but like... welcome to the human race, yeah? Like, everyone is inconsistent and partisan, all the time, about everything, ever.

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but in this current fandom culture everyon’s fucking aware. Friendly, thoughtful reminders are condescending at this point. Like we’re too dumb to actually know, yeah, rape is fucked up or worse you suspect us of being a predator.

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but like... the smaller ship with the 2 year age gap where the woman's older is constantly falling all over itself to apologize and defend why it's not pedo and how age gaps are so problematic and predatory and lead to real life relationship woes and they're so sorry they ship this disgusting age-gap trash. But the popular ship with the 5 year age gap where the guy's the older one gets a free pass as healthy and perfect and has nothing to defend.

That's not activism, that's just plain ol' ship bullying.

I think the very nature of how emotional and personal stuff is makes it inherently impossible to have good faith discussions. So leave that shit for English class, or spaces where people can come in and voluntarily read why 'Sam appearing in a fic only to play marriage counselor to Steve and Bucky is a little eeeeh' instead of going looking for people to educate on why that trope makes them a racist shithead who needs to kill themselves.

Re: Annoying Fandom Things

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's a question of the emotive and personal nature of the stuff, but I think there's certainly an argument to be made that the structural nature of Tumblr / the Internet has that effect on good faith conversations.