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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-15 02:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #3938 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3938 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yakuza Kiwami]


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[Fast and Furious feud, The Rock vs. Vin Diesel]


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[The X-Files]


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[Urashiman]


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[Chris Hemsworth]


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[Cuphead]











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(Anonymous) 2017-10-16 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I think Paul Walker is the big, unspoken element in this fight. Dom and Paul co-starred in the first F&F film back in 2001, and while Dom skipped F&F2, and Paul skipped F&F3, they've worked side by side on every installement since then (4,5,6 & 7). It seems like they were friends who got along really well and loved doing the series and probably had similar professional outlooks. I'm not quoting facts here, but my speculation is that they wanted to keep co-staring in F&F movies; it was a good thing they had going and they didn't want to mess with it.

Then Paul died. And the studio said, "Welp, guess we need someone new to fill the void he left behind." So they hired The Rock. But The Rock was not Paul Walker. The Rock is a bigger star that Paul was, for one thing. The Rock wants to distinguish himself from the rest of the ensemble cast, because he has a bigger career and bigger aspirations to feed. And that's perfectly understandable.

But I can also understand how, from Dom and Tyrese's perspective, He's coming into their film family, cramming himself into a spot Paul filled perfectly, and then potentially destabilizing the franchise (in a way Paul never did and wouldn't have done) by using it as a springboard for a solo film in the same universe.

Rationally, is The Rock doing anything wrong? No. It's not personal, it's business. But going by what Vin and Tyrese has said on the matter, it is personal for them. They miss their friend. They also miss the good, low-key, stable dynamic they had going when Paul was with them. And they're worried and resentful now that a bigger star has come along, with no prior investment in the franchise whatsoever, and drawn the focus onto himself and off of the ensemble.

Um.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-16 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Paul died before filming ending on the seventh in the series and by then The Rock as Hobbs had been in the fifth, sixth, and seventh. Now, was he given a bigger role in eight because of Paul Walker's death? Probably. But to say The Rock had no prior investment in the franchise is a little off, isn't it?

I think some of it has to do with Paul Walker's death, some of it has to do with Hollywood politics, and some of it has to do with some friction that seems to have been there for a while.

(Also, I do sometimes think of Vin Diesel as Dom, too.)

Re: Um.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-16 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. I was not aware, the rock had been in the films prior to a little in seven.

It was either genius or luck that a guy named vin was cast to play a guy named dom. I havent watched the films since the early aughts, and I still call vin dom like a quarter of the time without noticing.