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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-20 07:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #3943 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3943 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense because it won't be the same show at all. That will be good news for some and bad news for others. I hope you enjoy it, OP! If not, it's still fun watching the arcs that you loved over again :)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t blame you for staying anon admitting to being a fan of Moffat’s writing.

For what it’s worth, I agree. Yes, he jerks himself off a bit over how “clever” he is, but I like his tones and I think it worked really well with Who.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked most of Moffat's episodes he wrote before he took over as showrunner, but I haven't enjoyed his tenure as showrunner.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is certainly the prevailing opinion! I liked his tenure. Or, at the least, I don’t think it was as pants-shittingly bad as a lot of people make it out to be. I enjoyed myself thoroughly.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Season 05 was the best new Who season.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Season 6 and 7 both have legit claims to be the worst

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Nice try anon. Season 06 had some awesome episodes AND best boy Rory. It was great. And I don't remember much about 07 but I don't think it had any farting aliens tier episodes, so wrong again.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-10-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I very much disagree with that. I'd say the worst of New Who would be 2 and parts of 3.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - same. The "clever" story arcs make no sense. Too many plot holes and contradictions and hand-waving. I really hope the new show runner does a better job or Who will get cancelled again :(

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever you think of Moffat, it's still annoying to be all judgy about it like OP says they were

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
My God. How dare someone have an opinion.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-10-21 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I am curious which aspect of his writing you like? I am one of those who think he cannot run a show as he goes for grandeour and overarching plots while sucking at pacing and character depth. I did like RTD for fleshing backgrounds out and how his characters interacted (I mostly enjoyed Rose's parents and Martha's family, although his bookends also were abrupt with convenient and shallow plot twists like Martha and Mickey getting together, Doctor being cloned and Rose's mum landing an alternate universe version of her husband ... making all her's and Roses' arc cheaper). Moffat does good short plot lines but not much else - Dr. Who and Sherlock are not even prime examples - Jekyll was.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-10-21 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Some of us like grandeour and overarching plots. And I think that he can be good at character depth. Not always, and he draws it out, but Amy was well fleshed out. And Clara took longer, but by the end I think she was fleshed out as well. And Bill was given depth pretty quickly.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-10-21 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I written it long as I meant him not writing the 'middle' point and aftermath of those overarching plots? RTD was also doing that and he closed them off too quickly and easily for me but he had well written charachters to fill in (to me at least).

I think Amy's overall plot was what I did not like as her first season was all build up and then it jumped to very deep and serious issues ... which got ignored (such as the whole alternate universe her, her best friend setting up her whole life up, her suddenly getting her memories back and a lot of ... similar things?).

Then he repeated same with Clara and she was quite a strong character from the start and you could leave her vague and all jumbled up across all timelines and universes but she did not stand out with her own world - her family was only mentioned in Christmas special and her boyfriend felt as if shoved in.

RTD was not better as he written overarching emotional arcs but he felt better to me due to him writing backgrounds well (then again - as you say - someone might like Moffat's and I am biased as I do not like him in running seat of anything).

(Was angriest at Moffat just dumping a baby on Amy when her wanting fame and Rory wanting settling down conflict happened as it could have been in background as subtle tone for the season but to me it lacked any grounding afterwards.)

(To be fair, I might be more biased as lived with BFF of someone involved this listened to person who worked with Moffat)
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[personal profile] kaffy_r 2017-10-21 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand; I got a little tired of the OHNOEZ OHWOEZ when Rusy left, and now I'm trying to be quiet about my sorrow at Moff's departure. I'd like to think that my irritation back then was the determination, even before the Moff's tenure started, that it was going to be awful. Perhaps I was also irritated by the tears of Ten's more narrow-focused stans. I certainly didn't dislike Rusty - I'll always be grateful to him for reviving the series, and he did some wonderful things - and I didn't mind Ten, or at least I didn't mind him too much.

tl;dr: I'm feeling the kind of sorrow at Moff's departure that others felt at Rusty's tenure ending. I just hope I'm handling it a bit better than some (not all) of Rusty's fans.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2017-10-21 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I have definitely found myself feeling like this. It's not being sad that's my problem with the fanatical 10 fans who harass people who like the later series though it's how they handle it. I don't intend to be publicly bitter 10 years down the line, whatever happens.