[ SECRET POST #3943 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3943 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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05. [SPOILERS for Project Runway Season 16]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of incest, anorexia]

[Feed (2017)]


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08. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[thewakokid]

So, who do you think had a bigger impact on turning Vimes and the AMCW around? Carrot or Sybil?

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

Vimes.

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[thewakokid]

Vimes was a drunk, tho. He needed motivation to be better, who do you think gave him the kick in the arse he needed, or who was more of a kick in the arse?

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

I think Carrot forced him to reconsider his (Vimes') belief that there was no way to fight for justice, no way to do anything good in Ankh Morpork. Mostly by putting him in weird situations and making things happen. But all of that was ultimately the inner Vimes coming out instead of drowning in a bottle.

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

I think Vimes had to turn himself around, and if he hadn't been sick of himself and watching corruption eat the city, nothing Carrot or Sybil did would've mattered. But I think Carrot provided the initial kick in the pants, but Sybil was in it for the long haul.

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man. My theory is that Vimes was always the Vimes he ended up being but the impotence of his situation put him in the bottle. He doesn't really fundamentally change in DW, he just gets the ability to do the things he views as important.

In that light, Carrot and actually Angua as well were both a necessary injection of competence into the AMCW. I think they were the strong foundation that Vimes used to put together the Watch as it became. Without them Vimes would never have been able to turn it around.

Sybil was the unexpected element that gave him a life outside the Watch. Without her I could imagine Vimes building the Watch he did but eventually getting lost back in drink because he would have no life over dealing with the essential shittiness of people. Sybil and Sam Jr give him hope, though half the time I think he doesn't really know what to do with that.

So both equally important imo.

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

Also, gaining the attention / notice of Vetinari probably helped a good bit.

Re: Ask canon questions - Discworld

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Good point. Vetinari is definitely a key third ingredient.