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⌈ Secret Post #3945 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but I have a huge problem with people saying "gender is a social construct" and saying it is defined by society's definition of man and woman. That really does mean that if you're biologically female and don't like dresses and prefer sports to dolls, your actual gender is now male. This is bullshit.

I agree that is bullshit as described. I think that our social conceptions about gender are *much* *much* *much* more complicated than that, first of all, and have much more variation and breadth than your account of them would have.

And also I would say just in general - I don't think there's ever a point where someone can externally define your identity. There's never a point where someone can say "your identity lines up better as a man than a woman, therefore you're a man." it doesn't make sense to talk in those terms. because existence precedes essence - your identity as a person, although understood and defined partly and unavoidably in socially defined terms, is still in some sense prior to those social constructions that are placed on top of it.

But gender IS sex until the moment you feel for you, it isn't.

Yes, I think this is the fundamental differentiating point between our two views. And I just fundamentally disagree. It seems to me that we can clearly and usefully talk about the way that gender exists as a social construct, the same way we can with any other social construct. And we can talk about how that impinges on and shapes our conception of our identity, again, the same way we can with any other social construct.