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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-22 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3945 ]


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[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-10-23 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Society, culture and history define gender roles so being gender none-conforming would be breaking stereotypes like being a bloke who likes heels. Gender is essentially you defining yourself based on how you internalise world around you. Sex is essentially body type - you have gay dudes both cis and trans having preferences on ... anything: one dude might like huge dicks while other one might not like them at all; same goes with lesbians. Bisexuality is trickier as for some it is like pansexuality but for some it is not.

Now, your sexual orientation is based on ... all of those taken in. For some it includes romantic one, for others it is separate or they have none. If someone says they are none binary - it can mean plenty of things as it could mean they see themselves as anything in between man and woman binary based on how they perceive themselves in the context of world around them. They could be fluid and change or just opt out.

Asexuality would be similar as it would be lack of specified target in field of sexuality, romance or both (some also add aromantic if it applies and that is trickier as can be culturally specific or plenty other things - I kind of said that about me in the past but then met my husband and the 'romantic' part applied only to him so it is just gay for me without the add-on nowadays).

As for the bio part - ask the person. As some consider it 'their body' so 'sex is same as gender' while some are 'what you are born as is the bio part' and some are completely something else. None is incorrect as nature is funky and we all are just flesh bags being arseholes and destroying Earth.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-23 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Asexuality is possible to me because sexuality is internal. Beyond pride gear, you can't tell someone's sexuality by looking at them. The other anon explained to gender is a combo of physical, internal, biological factors which make it up. Being physically agender doesn't make sense to be because how can you identify as something you can't really be perceived as, since the physical presentation of agender is essentially androgyny and all physical traits are gendered to some extent.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-10-23 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I see why you can see it like that and it all really depends on context so you would really have to ask specific people if they want to speak about it and what it means to them - cultures vary, same as representations to sexuality. I know agender people who express themselves as a gender binary according to my hometown but not to them. I guess to me anything a- gender, sexual, romantic is opposed to what they perceive their own standards as. To some being agender is being an anti-thesis to all gender role stereotypes but to someone else it is not caring, being everything (then again - to some it can be genderqueer or similar), being simply outside the binary or never finding themselves in any narration.

Consider the thing that someone mentioned above as well (I am a crap reader so I skip stuff as you probably noticed xD) - gender expectations and connotations differ and change over time plus different places have their own ideas. I would say it is hard to perceive anyone as anything as our own perception of others' is coloured by what we know of. In an ideal world, it would not matter as we would come to conclusion all voices count but they still come with gravity of our past.

However, you can try one thing - think how it works for them and not for you which is old schooled research and googling. See how your peers with the trait you cannot grasp narrate the world and that's probably it ...