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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-22 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3945 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-10-23 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Twenty years ago, there were very, very few women who felt distressed that they had to "pass" as women.

How are we determining this? What metric are you using?

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-10-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Time travelling one. Gender roles started to be reinforced in Europe and their stolen lands sometime during industrialisation. Before that - it was a thing rich people did thus why some might assume it happened to all as others often simply did not write about their experience. However, some did but the records are usually rather local as not transcribed online. Gender identity as a personal concept existed since forever just not with same semantics and connotations as they evolved (also, again, very culturally specific).

OP is right that sexism certainly got worse in recent years - possibly because we now see people actively fighting it due to bigger media circulation. However, while extremism increased overall - I would say that conditions for women are better individually. My mother and grandma never conformed to gender roles and got a lot of shit for it but while they still might have today - they would also get a lot of support as those who wish to educate themselves do so.

We ironically come from an area where a lot of trans men were prevalent in history and the thing that changed was literally the ability to transition. No one policed anyone pre-18th century but afterwards yeah - a lot of trans dudes ended in asylums (it was like a posh retirement home for rich elderly in those cases) as their families did not like reputation being ruined. Sure, none said they were trans just said they were dudes as semantics evolve.

The sexism and trans thing do intersect but in a very different way. If you are a trans woman - you are considered as willingly going to a lower social class. It hits patriarchy in the face and anything supposed 'biological men' do is taken seriously. Then anything a trans woman choses to do or how she is becomes judged just like any other woman (not that any trans woman ever was not judged before coming out or does not have it way more dangerous than cis women).

Meanwhile the case with dudes is similar - trans dudes are not as scrutinised as they move up in hierarchy but since society is sexist, they are still viewed through the lens of 'biological woman' past and not taken as seriously. This might be why it appears there is more of them as they usually vanish while trans women often are not able to.

There is certainly also the part where trans dudes benefit from sexism and duplicate it all the same. One of hugest misoginysts I known was a trans bloke, pretty homophobic as well (but kept creepily hitting on me despite hating all gay people and me shutting him out) plus just all general arse. He generally got praise from others for being outspoken (usually for sexist stuff or racist things) as his crowd loved such things.

My area certainly is not the whole universe so somewhere else it could have looked different but people are pretty much always the same, just change the architecture, language, technology and make more wars over crap.