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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-26 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3949 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3949 ⌋

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[OP wanted this warned for sexual content, image itself is SFW though]








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(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding? "Poor woobie girl with awesome psychic powers she got by being a science experiment and has to learn the ways of normal humans (usually from a boy)" is literally a trope.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
In what? Anime? Comics?

I've never seen a character like Eleven in any of the Western live-action media I consume.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-27 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Firestarter (with young Drew Barrymore no less) and Carrie come immediately to mind as prior art. More Firestarter than Carrie. Netflix also tapped it with the OA.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I've never seen Firestarter, but IMO Carrie, The OA, and Eleven are all very different character in just about every way. Different ages. Different behaviors. Different personalities. Different life stories. Different ways of relating to others. Sure, they all have some kind of supernatural ability (well, maybe) but even their abilities are all different. Carrie and Eleven share telekinesis, sure, but El is also a...long-distance clairvoyant? Or something. Plus, her powers exhaust her in a way Carrie's don't appear to do.

Them simply all being female with ~powers~ isn't nearly enough to make them feel like they're covering more than a little sliver of the same fictional ground. If there's a trope that applies to all of them, it would have to be something like "is female, has powers" which is just way too vague to feel meaningful to me.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-27 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
The analysis doesn't assume they're the same characters, just that they share similar themes of being superhuman teens in conflict with adults who attempt to control or manipulate their superhuman abilities in abusive ways. (Now that I think about it, Logan is another variation.)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on Firestarter, though I feel like that movie is largely forgotten aside from being one of Drew's earliest, but Carrie is themed around the horrors of growing up and sexual dynamics, so I wouldn't put her in the same category as Eleven at all

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-27 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Eleven's backstory is a Firestarter AU.

Carrie includes the spooky supernatural kid who is controlled (unsuccessfully) by adults who don't really love them in healthy ways. Tropes are promiscuous and can mix and match with other tropes (such as sexual coming of age). I disagree with the upthread poster that it's gender-specific since there's a fair number of spooky boys as well. (Akira, Omen, and Looper although it has a loving parent.)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget River from Firefly.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
But those girls are always very pretty, waifubait. The girl here is not.