[ SECRET POST #3951 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3951 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(The Shape Of Water)


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[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/5fdqgzw.jpg

[supermanda]

This hurts the eyes, tiger.

Transcript?

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[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but:

Frollo frightens me more than any other Disney villain because I've personally known people who the only thing keeping them from becoming a Frollo was their lack of secular power.

These people wouldn't have bothered going after anyone based on race, but they actively went after anyone in their church who disagreed with them doctrinally or in terms of lifestyle. I don't mean anything as significant as sexual orientation when I say lifestyle. It was things as simple and stupid as a woman wearing earrings that were "too long and therefore a bad influence on the young girls."

Of course, merely asking questions about any theological issue these people had decreed mandatory to agree with got you tagged a rebellious troublemaker. These people believed that their own preferences and prejudices were exactly what God wanted, and that they were right to punish anyone who stepped out of line and make them obey. I've heard people say they find other Disney villains scary because they're plausible. Frollo is the most plausible of all to me because I know what it's like to be in such a person's crosshairs.

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[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for the transcript; the secret was a red smear for me.

Re: Transcript

[supermanda]

Thank you so much, anon!! ♡

For the secret: I was thinking about this just recently, OP! That entire film scared me as a kid, but it scares me more as an adult getting to know what Frollo is all about. My brother and I watched the movie for the first time in over a decade last week and I was pretty shocked at his character. I've seen him in real life before.

[kaijinscendre]

I gotta start referring to more people as 'tiger'.

[supermanda]

MJ's been having an effect on me lately!

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're projecting here in that Frollo isn't given a lot of time as a simple nit-picking literally holier-than-thou control freak. His hatreds are broad and aside from Esmeralda, not targeted at anyone specific.

That being said, I know exactly what type of person you are talking about. Luckily I got away from them after childhood, but to this day I wonder what I would do now if I ended up back there with them. Probably tell them to mind their own business and let God mind mine. And possibly start accusing them of being instruments of Satan if they tried to edge me out of the community which really was the biggest threat in my case. Conform or be shunned! And the shame and embarrassment and powerlessness they can make you feel for doing something they don't approve of. You know what they are? Sadists.

And now I'm so pissed off thinking about my own experiences I need to go bite something.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never actually seen this movie, but I get what you mean. Fortunately, I've never come up against anything particularly bad in this regard, but as a kid I did observe that there was a certain brand of church lady who acted like they were the moral guardians of everyone, including the priest (meanwhile, I've never had problems with actual priests). We were Episcopalians, so it's not like these women couldn't go to seminary and being a busybody was the only way they could contribute to religious life.

[nightscale]

I consider Gaston, mother Gothel and Frollo to be the scariest Disney villains because there are real people like them in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I know what you mean, OP. I think that religion can attract people like this... people who like having the clout of a god behind all the shitty things they do. Religion puts a thin veneer of godliness on it, and for some dumb reason, it fools a lot of people into think it's legitimate and not, you know, shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

It kind of dangerous to say that only religions attract people like this- they come in all walks of life- all they need is some kind of rigid code to judge others by, but it's safe to say that religion attracts the majority of them.

nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

But they didn't say that only religions attract people like this.

Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

+1 for the lost art of reading comprehension!

[(Anonymous)]

religion definitely has the strongest built-in justifications for 'you CAN't challenge me because the thing I'm speaking for is LITERALLY PERFECT' though

like, lots of other areas might have things where HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE WISDOM OF X is a response, but it doesn't have the same absolute conceptual/logical backing without The God Card

[(Anonymous)]

"It kind of dangerous to say that only religions attract people like this..."

Good thing I never said that then.

[cakemage]

Did we go to the same church, OP?

[greghousesgf]

this is one reason I'm an atheist.

[(Anonymous)]

There is increasing evidence that people just decide that God hates all the things that they do.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/11/30/creating-god-in-ones-own-image/#.WfUIhdXyvrc

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was kind of like this when I was younger. And of course in the most absurd, out-of-step with everyone else, silly ways. I may still be, a bit.

I think you have to learn to stop, and give up your own childish prejudices, and some people just don't. Humility is important.

Come to think of it, a lot of church when I was growing up was actually pastors repeatedly warning against this kind of self-righteousness, because of course they knew the sort to go to church were prone to this sort of psychology.