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Today we are discussing It Follows!

Here are some questions to start us off.

1. What was your initial reaction when the movie started? How did that change by the end of the movie?

2. Who was your favorite character in the movie? Your least favorite character? Why?

3. What was your favorite scenes? Your least favorite? Why?

4. What did you think of the soundtrack and/or score?

5. What did you think of the cinematography?

Feel free to talk about anything else as well!

Edited 2017-10-28 21:01 (UTC)

1. My initial reaction was "Who runs out of their house dressed like and with heels on? Also, THIS MUSIC IS AMAZING! I loved the movie but I think it would be super easy (especially as a woman) to evade the monster. I'd just sleep with a new person each day. Or sleep with a prostitute.

2. My favorite character was Jay. She was a fairly well rounded character. Then again, most of the other character didn't get the screen time to become less 1-dimensional. Paul was my least favorite. I hated how jealous he was of every other male character in the show. He is sort of the stereotypical 80s movie nerd.

3. My favorite scene is when the BF is showing Jay the monster for the first time. I love how they have the camera on the front of the wheelchair so it is facing Jay the whole time. Also, the first reveal of the monster is fantastic. There wasn't much I didn't like. But if I picked the least favorite would be when they were playing the trade game and he saw the girl in the yellow dress. Why would you go to a theater if you were being chased by a monster that is always moving?

4. I love the OST for this movie. It is probably in my top 20 OSTs of all time. I am glad this whole 80s style of scores is coming back.

5. I love how they use the camera to make you constantly unsure of who the monster is at several points during the movie. As I mentioned above, I also love the scene with Jay in the wheelchair.

The clam shell computer reader thing was so weird. Everything else in this movie says "80s" but that clam shell says THE FUTURE! Also, it is totally impractical as something to read on.

Your comments make the movie sound great but I’m a big fraidy-cat and get scared from the tiniest things. :( How frightening is the film?

I'd say medium scary? There isn't any gore. There are 2-3 jumpscares. Most of it is atmosphere.

I watched it on a bright sunny morning, so didn't have major problems with it. There were a couple of "argh!" moments. It's very atmospheric, though.

I'm with you on the camera angle thing. A lot of movies would have been less restrained and zoomed/framed the shot to make it obvious, but it was so subtle and every time I saw anyone walking even vaguely in the direction of the camera in the background I freaked.

Definitely agree about people walking in the background. Every person was a suspected STD monster.

I can't sleep with a new person every day, and I'm a woman. Hell, I haven't had sex with anyone in a few years.

1) My immediate reaction was “wow, this is odd!” and also “what a surprise that it's a young woman running about in skimpy clothing.” That reaction didn't really change much. Still odd by the end of the film, and we'd got a lot of footage of young women in skimpy clothing. I suppose the change was that I was thinking, “why no young men running about in skimpy clothing? Pls?”

I would have dressed in something a bit more practical one I knew what was going on TBH.

2) My favourite character was Jay – she kept her head admirably, considering, and also Gus, who was very brave. So was Paul, but he was a Nice Guy too.

3) Favourite scene was the wheelchair scene. That was really scary. It was so bizarre. What was he going to do to her? Was he a complete psycho? As it turns out, not the case, but at that point I had no clue what was going to happen next.

Least favourite was the scene in which they decide to go for the swimming pool. Yes, a great idea, but how did they know that chlorine + electricity was going to work? I may have missed something in the run-up to that point.

4) The soundtrack was wonderful– just slightly off perfectly normal.

5) Cinematography – well, I know nothing of such matters, but it worked for me!

The discord between past and future was unsettling, but perhaps it was meant to be. Cool reading device, but why didn't they have mobile phones? And why did the school give out names? That had a 70's vibe.
And finally, it's an interesting case of “showing the monster doesn't make it any less frightening.” I'd like to have more explanation of it got started, though, and how Hugh knew so much about it.

Not something that I would have watched without the movie club so thanks to the anons who voted for it!

We had the same favorite scene! I loved how the camera kept switching from in front of Jay to facing whatever she was looking at. It really built up the tension.

To be honest, I don't know WHY they thought that would be a good idea. Maybe they thought the monster could no swim?

I don't know anything about cinematography either, I should look up some videos on basic cinematography analysis.

Yeah, the movie was a weird combo of like the 80s and 00s. There was one cellphone in the whole movie (the one the opening girl used to call her dad) but everything else was very 80s.

It does seem odd that Hugh knows so much considering he said he barely remembers who gave It to him. Then again, Hugh lied a lot.

Oh, I missed that first cellphone! Lack of them makes plotting so much easier, I must admit, but then why have just the one, and the reader? V. odd. But perhaps it was all part of the unsettling feeling they were going for.

Then again, Hugh lied a lot

He surely did.

I wasn't sure about the swimming pool thing either. Like it must surely must be able to swim/traverse water in some way otherwise moving to another continent would be an instant fix?

Very true, and didn't it deal with the louts in the motor-boat at the lake? I definitely got the feeling that Jay had sex with them, and then they all got killed. I suppose it could have waited until they came ashore.

But that's a lot of deaths with no hue and cry.

1. I was on board from the get-go, mainly because the whole "I can't see what you're seeing" thing is always an instant creep-out for me.

2. Jay. I thought she came off as really believable and didn't fall into the usual 'helpless female horror protagonist' tropes. I liked how she took initiative and sort of enlisted her friends in avoiding/destroying the entity rather than just sitting and crying while watching everyone get slaughtered.

3. It's such a short scene but the one where her friend is standing in the doorway and this ridiculously tall guy just ducks through the door behind her is one of my favourites. I love any horror villain that is threatening just by being there and being silent without the whole jumpscare screaming/shrieking/running towards the camera thing that a lot of horrors use these days.

I was always a bit iffy about the hospital sex scene. Like, I get the practical reason behind it, but I just kept thinking "surely someone would notice?"

4. No complaints about the soundtrack at all. The main theme is pitch-perfect to me and stuck in my head ever since I hear it.

5. As I posted in another comment, I loved the camera use here. I spent the whole time looking out for people that looked like they might be walking in Jay's direction and it really added to the sense of paranoia.

Overall this is one of my absolute favourite horrors of recent years. It's really nice to see some subtlety and ambiguity rather than RAAAAWR SCARY SCREAMY JUMPSCARES. I feel like some of the stuff that wasn't explained (like the entity appearing as Jay's dad towards the end) just added to the mystery of it.

I feel like some of the stuff that wasn't explained (like the entity appearing as Jay's dad towards the end) just added to the mystery of it.

Oh - I have face-recognition problems and didn't get that at all! Yes, that's really unnerving, especially as the monster appeared to Gus as his mother.

Don't feel bad, I didn't catch it until my second watch! I know the thing was just trying to avoid entering the pool, but the way it was just throwing shit at Jay while looking like her dad instead of just waiting for her to come out gave me abusive parent vibes. It could have looked like anyone, but in that exact situation it chose to look like her dad. Also the way Jay says "I don't want to tell you" when her sister asks what it looks like. :(

Also the way Jay says "I don't want to tell you" when her sister asks what it looks like. :(

:((

I did wonder about the near-absence of the parents and why the young people didn't even try and access help. I mean, Tim Smit of the "Lost Gardens of Heligan" fame did when he had trouble with a "ghost" and that was only twenty years ago.

Oh man, I am a sucker for movies that play with that tropes as well! And the scene with the really tall guy is also one of my favorites! He was just so damn long.

Honestly, if the hospital was busy and they were quiet, I doubt they would notice. I remember going hours in a room by myself the various times I've been in a hospital.

I think the main theme of this is going to end up as iconic as themes like Halloween and Nightmare on Elm St.

One thing I just realized was a bit weird was the fact that Paul was at their house all the time. Maybe he was a latch key kid.

Unusually tall monsters are another of my things when it comes to horror, probably why Slender Man still gets to me a bit. There's a journal you can find in Resident Evil 5 (I think?) where it just says "Saw big man outside window. Very tall." and I noped out of there so fast.

That's a good point. I guess I'd like to imagine that patients are checked regularly but yeah, the reality is usually different. The one time I had to stay in hospital for a few days I had to go get help because no one noticed the nearly-naked lady trying to climb out the window. :(

I did get some Elm Street vibes with the whole "only you can see me" thing, and I hope we see it more. It's such an effective idea to me.

Yeah, Paul didn't really seem to have anybody apart from the core group. I found him a bit irritating on first watch but since then I feel like he honestly really cares about Jay and does his best to look out for her, though I'm not sure if Jay felt the same way in the end. He seemed like a sweet kid.

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