[ SECRET POST #533 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #533 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: 101 OP

[cleverthylacine]

Er. Well. While I agree with AJ Hall that Quinn was a little overly callous about deciding who got to live or die in "Borders of Infinity" (it had to be done but she was maybe arguably a bit too unbothered by it)--the thing she did that really made me hate her is in "Winterfair Gifts" and you definitely haven't read that yet.

Re: 101 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, who's AJ Hall?

And please refresh my memory re: Borders-- it's been a while since I read that one and I'm not sure I have the details down.

Thanks. (Man, I love it when I end up in coherent fandom discussions on F!S...)

Re: 101 OP

[cleverthylacine]

AJ Hall wrote all a HP/Vorkosiverse crossover, "Time Shall Not Mend", that kicked off her Draco/Neville epic.

It's been like 10 years since I read "Borders" myself, but they were escaping from a prison camp and Elli had to decide basically which people's lives were worth saving. At the time that AJ said she thought the way Elli went about it was callous, much more so than Bel in a similar situation, I agreed with her--but it's been so long since I read the story I can't really debate it.

The reasons I've disliked Elli have all had to do with the way she handled relationships. Not so much Miles--I fully get why she wouldn't marry Miles, Jesus, that would be miserable for anyone who wasn't prepared for the realities of Barrayar not to mention the advanced case of terminal ADHD. But her treatment of Ethan, and then the thing in "Winterfair Gifts" which cemented it.

I am leery of being too judgemental of a character's actions when escaping a death camp because I do not really know what I would do if I had been in one. But I have been in the position of attending an ex-boyfriend's wedding, and I know I am better behaved than Elli Quinn in that situation.

Re: 101 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, right, I've heard of AJ. That was a good fic-- though I read it long enough ago that I've forgotten not only most of what it indirectly taught me about the Vorkosiverse, but when it was set. *grins* I should reread it when I'm through the series.

Aha. Yeah. Okay, I'll watch out for Quinnly bitchiness when I get to "Winterfair Gifts".

Tangential note: I consider him less attention-deficit and more bipolar. It's pretty heavily subtexted in Brothers in Arms, and reasonably obvious before that... although maybe I'm projecting because I have bipolar relatives.

Re: 101 OP

[cleverthylacine]

heh. I'm incredibly ADHD. But less than Miles.

Though, seriously, the two are hard to tell apart in extreme cases. The only thing that they had to go on in my case is that I don't actually feel GOOD when I'm wired, and if I take "speed" when I'm sleep deprived it puts me right to sleep. I respond to ADHD meds. So, therefore, I am ADHD.

Re: 101 OP

[cleverthylacine]

PS. There is a mailing list at www.dendarii.com that you may wish to join, and also, a few Bujold communities.

Re: 101 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! :-D

I read a bit more of Mirror Dance and came to two conclusions: 1. This is looking suspiciously like that case where one half of a set of twins is schizophrenic and the other half is bipolar (I'm lookin' at you, Mark's paranoia), and hahahahaha subtext with Ivan oh please say it's true. Don't spoil me; I'm having too much fun. *grins*