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⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

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Comments

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Which had to be fucking addressed if he gets outed... so should he have just apologized and not mentioned the fact that it was a man accusing him?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Did you read the statement?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Yep.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

So I think the part that's a problem is framing it as "I choose now to live as a gay man" - which frames it as a choice to come out. And goes beyond just addressing the accusations.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. I do think that people with picthforks need to take a step back here though. He didn't try and brush off the allegations and say Anthony lied, or that there was no way he could have possibly done something like that.

If he did it, it was wrong, I agree, and from the statement he seems to think so too.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

It seems to me that the bar you're setting out for him to cross is unbelievably low - so low as to be functionally useless. I don't think he deserves much credit at all for feeling bad about it.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

So you've never done anything out of character ever at all in life? Not once? That you felt bad for?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it would depend on what I did. Right? Like... are you serious with this? If it's morally wrong, it's still morally wrong whether it's out of character or not.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying it's NOT morally wrong. I never did say that. But there's a huge leap between 'one morally wrong out of character action that person is apologetic about' and 'many morally wrong actions that person gives no shits about'.

Doing one bad thing does not make you a bad person any more than doing one good thing makes you a good person.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Again, I think it depends on what the actual thing that you did wrong was - how serious your one single misdeed was. It's a lot different if you stole a candy bar versus if you committed a murder. And I think what he did was more towards the serious side of the scale.

Also, I don't think we know for sure exactly how out of character it was, but that's admittedly speculation.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

Also, I don't think we know for sure exactly how out of character it was, but that's admittedly speculation.

Fair enough. This is why I hate that it's 'okay' (and by okay, I do not mean okay, I mean that it happens and people let it) that sex to get ahead is a thing, and rape to keep someone under your thumb is a thing, and that talking about it could risk your job, because I honestly don't know if I'd be brave enough to say anything if it meant being blackballed from my entire job industry. I just hope that other people DO speak out and make the whole thing not okay so that it's not possible to have such power over someone.

At the same time, I'd like to believe that everyone speaking out is being honest and not just riding on coattails for fifteen minutes fame, because I hate the thought that I wouldn't believe someone had been through something like that.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT—I don’t think of myself as a good person at all, but I’ve certainly never sexually assaulted a minor—or anyone else. I’ve done stuff I’m not proud of, but sexual assault of minors to me crosses a moral event horizon, so I don’t think it’s useful to ask if people have ever done stuff they’re not proud of; it’d be a more apt question to ask if anyone’s ever done something they thought was monstrous, which is probably not nearly as common.