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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-05 03:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well done, OP, I usually find that so, sooo annoying (SHERLOCK CHARACTERS IN THE HOBBIT AND THEREFORE ALL OF TOLKIEN FANDOM, Y/Y/ALWAYS???) but you picked as your example, THE EXACT ONE TIME I like it. Robin actually being an alias of Maria Hill is one of my favourite retcon-the-HIMYM-ending-away headcanons I have ever seen.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's weird because I have no idea why it works for me in some cases and not in others. I think part of it is how naturally the fandoms fit together, and part of it is fans not being just super annoying about it? IDK. Going crazy for Martin Freeman just isn't that interesting to me.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I love these in a few cases too. It's funny because I never read crossovers with all the characters from two or more fandoms just lumped together for no reason, but this makes it okay somehow?

I think my favourite crossover ship is T.J. Hammond/Steve Rogers because they both need hugs so badly.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I pretty open to fandom crossovers, but I do think it's easier if they share an actor

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my least-favourite types of crossover is urban fantasy with urban fantasy. Most urban fantasies have fairly well developed worlds, and they just don't have the space for another, usually distinctly different, system to be slotted in. Like, in a Buffy/Supernatural crossover, how come the Winchesters (who travel all over the US) have never even heard of a Hellmouth? How come the vampires are so different? Hell, forget the vampires, what about the demons?
It's all just really distracting to me.

Now, urban fantasy meets, say, crime drama? That I can do. Or just straight-up 'character is pulled into another universe entirely'. Just give me some chance at suspending my disbelief.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes to all this ^^^!!!

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
These kind of crossovers can still work with some minor adjustments to both the 'canon' worlds to make them mesh. But yes, trying to just shove them together outright and handwave away something like the boys not knowing about the Hellmouth when that would be something that John Winchester would have been all over is a little egregious.

Maybe something like "Oh yeah, California is kind of a monster shitshow. Good thing there's a lot of hunters out there. The Hellmouth has its own thing going on, doesn't lead to 'actual' hell." Show a memory of John Winchester having a special lesson on 'how to tell what kind of vampire it is, remember kids, beheading works on both'. Buffy gets told that there are other people know about the supernatural, but of course, she is still the only one who can stop the flow of evil from the Hellmouth and save the world. The Council probably has policies about keeping the Slayer away from Hunters, because they tend to 'give them ideas' about surviving and not having to answer to a club of old English dudes.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Good crossovers are an art form, and part of making them work is having a good reason for the characters to be where they are. Not all fandoms can cross with others.

That said, I have the opposite reaction. Most of the time I think the ones that bank on the same actor are lame and I'd prefer any other reason, even a dumb portal opening, makes a better reason to put characters from two fandoms together. I think it has to do with my issues with secret identities though, and YYMV.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2017-11-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm. I love crossovers but I think your example is the worst kind. The worst. I'm sorry. But unless it's a rare case when the characters are very similar and multiple identities are plausible, that's what makes no sense.
Edited 2017-11-05 23:19 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I do find it slightly more plausible when it's 'here are two different characters (played by the same person) who look just like one another, wacky Shakespearian shenanigans ensue' or w/e, but even then it's not really a joke that you can stretch across a whole story, imo.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Same.
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[personal profile] vethica 2017-11-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
See, when you have two characters from different series played by the same actor, I usually just end up shipping it.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm another person who thinks this kind of crossover is actually the worst. A lot of that could be because I've seen a lot of it in my smaller fandoms, where it's all about the bigger properties the actor was involved with and suddenly half the stories in my small fandom are actually about completely different popular fandoms with just one character from mine for flavour. It gets REALLY ANNOYING. Generally I find crossovers based on actors to be about the actor, not the characters they played or the universes they're set in.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, it's so aggravating when a huge fandom just sort of rolls over a much smaller fandom. For one thing, it makes it a lot harder to find what you're looking for.

I like the off the wall crossover AUs.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I like a lot of AUs with crossovers and fusions are particular favorites and I don't have a problem with them not being related, shared actor or not, however, I have a real soft spot for unrelated crossovers that are done to get together other characters of actors' that already have a character ship. For instance, if you like Bucky/Steve (MCU) and you crossover The Covenant and Not Another Teen Movie to get Chase Collins(Sebastian Stan)/Jake Wyler(Chris Evans), I think that's awesome and should be encouraged. Maybe Maria Hill should get with Doogie Howser or Dean Forester should get with Eric Brady.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of unrelated but gosh that woman is pretty and I love her hair.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Have you ever seen the post this is from? It's a whole thing of "people posing in front of paintings they resemble" with the kicker being Weird Al and a painting of John the Baptist.

Fun stuff.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I've got to agree. Crossovers can only really be good if they share something in common. Not if someone takes two random fandoms and smashes them together.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. That seems even sillier to me, tbh.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the complete opposite. I only like crossover AUS if the two sets of characters have a good reason to be in the same universe. I think the only one I've ever liked was a Dogma/Good Omens crossover from years ago.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-07 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I do that with Nu!Trek and Karl Urban. Mix that with Doom and Bones is actually an immortal...love it.