[ SECRET POST #535 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #535 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 257 secrets from Secret Submission Post #077.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - response ], [ 1 2 - why me ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

I think people steal stuff from Japanese artists more often for a couple of reasons:

1) They think that Japanese artists are somehow better by virtue of being Japanese
2) They think that they are less likely to be caught and hounded, or have the artist come after them

[(Anonymous)]

1. This is true and sad to the maximum.
2. I always laugh when they get caught because it's stupid to steal anyway. They always repost thinking that no one will recognize it or say anything about it. I don't care if it starts shit, I usually say something.

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

There's this weird fetishization/othering going on with #1. Japanese fanartists don't exist as fans the way English-speaking fans who participate in LJ/forum/whatever fandom do--they're these amazing fanart-producing machines who exist to provide us with material for unique and speshul icons.

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I agree. Some fangirls seem to think Japanese people are rather a lot like fairies. Beautiful fairies who make magical art appear out of nowhere and live their lives in funny costumes among sparkles and sakura blossoms.

Incidentally, those fangirls always seem more likely to steal art, maybe because they're usually much younger.

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Don't forget, their gay men are beautiful and beloved by all.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly, it has nothing to do with age. It's just this double-standard, that since these Japanese artists whose works they steal draw as well as professionals it's okay to treat them like pro artists who create canon - just steal and use without even crediting, let alone considering the artists' wishes. Or that it's okay to use them because they found the artwork on 4chan without any source and well, they can't credit or ask for permission this way, haha, nice leeeway isn't it? Fuck them.

In my experience, most of the time people don't even stop to think about what they're doing when they take artworks from a site or upload an artwork to 4chan. And I HATE this because I've seen these Japanese artists, incredibly nice people who are very enthusiastic to meet with foreign fans, getting very hurt and disillusioned; also because you bet that if you tried to use an English-speaking artist's work without permission someone would speak up in her defense.

Re: OP

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

I have a community for you:
art_theft

Re: OP

[shigeruhiko.livejournal.com]

Hey, OP. I swear to god I could BE YOU. You aren't posting about Naruto-fen, are you? Cause they are awful elitist bitches sometimes (like the girls who created Naruto Doujinshi on LJ.

I am really curious as to who you are--I thought I knew most of the people who have been to Japan and at doujinshi events. Gimme a ping if you know me at all, or even if you don't. Totally shocked to find someone else who knows Jfen.

It bothers me too. The whole muddy legality of doujinshi, I don't think anyone really gets it outside of doujinka. =/