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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-23 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #535 ]


⌈ Secret Post #535 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 257 secrets from Secret Submission Post #077.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - response ], [ 1 2 - why me ].
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Re: 114, 122, 127, 136

[identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
"You can pretend this isn't true as much as you like, but it doesn't change the reality."

I just realized something.

I never said that it wasn't true or it was unreal, that is just my outlook on things and how I see people, my opinion and such.

I am aware that other people do that, and right now all you are doing is proving another point to me and everyone else when I tell this little anecdote.

So here is this for you loud and clear-

"the world is magical fairy land where race and gender make no difference whatsoever,"

RACE AND GENDER DO NOT MATTER TO ME, I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T REAL, I JUST SAID IT'S NOT IMPORTANT WHEN I MEET PEOPLE.

AS IN ITS NOT A PRIORITY OR SOMETHING I THINK OF CONCIOUSLY, WHETHER I DO UNCONCIOUSLY ISN'T A FACTOR BECAUSE SOCIETY AND CULTURE HAS SYMBOLICALLY EMBEDDED IT INTO OUR MINDS AND VERY DNA.

I'm sorry for losing my temper, really I am, I am trying really hard not to be a jerk, because when you, even after berating me, calling me names, making fun of me, still don't deserve being bitched at, that's not fair.

All I'm trying to do is have a decent conversation, without tossing around insults and looking down on the other, but so far its been nothing but a one (wo)man effort.

Re: 114, 122, 127, 136

(Anonymous) 2008-06-24 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
So, if someone called you a n**er, you wouldn't mind, right? Race doesn't matter to you, so that's no more harmful than someone calling you a jerk. And all those incidents of racism you've experienced, they didn't actually bother you, did they? Because race isn't important. Everyone experiences exactly the same thing, no matter what color their skin.

If you woke up tomorrow and you magically had white skin, your life would be drastically different. If a white person woke up tomorrow and had black skin, their lives would be drastically different. If you don't realize that, you haven't been paying attention.

I know you don't get this, and I know it's probably not your fault that you don't get it. You're surrounded by a society that tells you the best thing you could ever hope to be is a white person, and it's hard not to take that to heart (watch the doll test in A Girl Like Me--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyI77Yh1Gg--and think about it the next time you think unconscious prejudice "isn't a factor"). But your whole idea that living in blissful ignorance somehow makes you more evolved is flat-out wrong, and really sad. Living in ignorance just makes you ignorant.

Re: 114, 122, 127, 136

[identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
"If you don't realize that, you haven't been paying attention."

Clearly you haven't been paying attention either.

"You're surrounded by a society that tells you the best thing you could ever hope to be is a white person."

Here's a little fun fact of the day for you about me: Fuck society. I know what society says, and I ignore it.

"living in blissful ignorance somehow makes you more evolved"

You love putting words in my mouth don't you? Do you even understand what I'm trying to convey here? At all?

"And all those incidents of racism you've experienced, they didn't actually bother you, did they?"

They did when I was younger because I was a kid, but now that I'm older, I realize that the comments are not important, because the people aren't important.

What makes you think you have the right to determine my way of thinking as ignorance?

Are you...you're not getting anything from this, I take it?

Race isn't important to me, it just isn't. There are more traits about people for me to judge that don't involve superficial bullshit.

Intelligence
Religion/Faith (only the ones that overdo it)
Patience

I understand that race/gender/etc are important, but they're not important.

They are important because they are, but they are not because they shouldn't.

Re: 114, 122, 127, 136

[identity profile] noni-moon.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
let me just say how much I really admired you for your patient while responding to that Anon. because OH BOY if I had to deal with a complete stranger over the internet telling me what I SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T think or feel, acting like they understand me better than myself and twisting my words every single time....UGRH dear god.

you are NOT foolish or naive to choosing to believe what you want believe in, I think your even far more stronger and wiser than any one who "see the world as it really is" :)

Re: 114, 122, 127, 136

[identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
Its funny because my usual style is 'bite their freakin head off', but I'm trying to think before I post, but you could see in my above comment that I sorta slipped up a bit.

Thank you for your support, I really appreciate it, and let me tell you that every comment it has been killing me not to go tell her to stick it where the sun don't shine.

I thought I made it perfectly clear, but she managed to twist it every single time.

It astounds me, and in a way is kind of scary.

Thanks!