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⌈ Secret Post #535 ⌋

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Oh, every single character on the show is horribly written. Including the men. My feeling is you have to be a fairly talented actor in order to pull off the crap the writers throw at them, and IMO, most of the actresses hired aren't.

So I tend to blame the extra-suckiness of the women on the casting department. They seem to go more for 'hot' than talented. It's pretty much "Boobs and shiny hair? You're hired".

I will say that when the female writers on staff get a hold of the women, they're a lot less horrific. Too bad it usually ends up being their last episode.

Lauren Cohen is quite a good actor, and it didn't stop anyone from hating her. And we've had plenty of sucky male actors who couldn't pull off the material, and it didn't make anyone hate them. There's just no way to spin it to claim SPN fandom doesn't have a gigantic double standard. If a character is female, they find a way to hate her, and they find a way to justify it ("I hate her because she's badly written! Wait, men are also badly written, you say? Then I hate her because she's a bad actor! Wait, there are also bad male actors on the show? Then I hate her because she's a bitch who tried to kill Sam! Wait, Gordon tried to kill Sam multiple times? Then, um, I hate her because she's a skanky whore!"). If there was a single male character, in three years, who had provoked even a quarter of the ire routinely lobbed at female characters, I might be willing to cut the fandom a little more slack. But there's never been one, and if I were a betting woman, I'd say there never will be one.

Oh, poor Lauren Cohan. Maybe she is a great little actress. I don't care who you are, no one in the world could have made the steaming pile of crap that was Bela less atrocious. And comparing her to Gordon is ridiculous. Gordon was a villain from the start, and we were never expected to believe that the boys would willingly work with him a week after he'd tried to kill them, nor was he shoved down our throats over and over, he appeared what, 4 times in two seasons? Gordon and Bela were two completely different situations, and him having a penis instead of a vagina had nothing to do with it. In fact, that was one of main issues with her. That the writers expected us to pretend she wasn't an evil, sociopathic bastard simply because she had a vagina. If she'd been a man, Dean would have beat her ass down the moment she shot Sam. It was lousy, lousy writing and it didn't matter who they cast for that role.
And this goes for other females as well. Like Jo, who could have been interesting, but they wrote her as a 16 year old girl and she looked like a 16 year old girl and it was skeeving people out. There are valid reasons for disliking the female characters, just as there are valid reasons for disliking the males.

There are valid reasons for disliking the female characters, just as there are valid reasons for disliking the males.

And yet, SPN as fandom a whole loves every male character and hates every female character. Which, again, is the point. They always have "good" reasons for why they hate all the women and love all the men, but they always hate all the women and love all the men. You personally might not fit that description, but SPN fandom taken as group does.

They always have "good" reasons for why they hate all the women and love all the men, but they always hate all the women and love all the men.

So I guess your stance is that we should just accept a terribly written, badly miscast character simply because she's a woman?

The writers consistently fail to create believable, sympathetic, intriguing female characters, why should we give them a pass for that? Are you honestly saying that Bela was well written, and it was only the fangirls who didn't like icky women that complained?

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