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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-11 03:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #3965 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3965 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I would call those pretty superficial similarities. They don't have much (if anything) to do with the root of what makes MRAs/incels/whoever else so vile, so it seems somehow in poor taste to compare him to them. Almost like taking advantage of the actual harmful beliefs incels hold in in order to justify disliking (or guilt tripping fans of) an already unlikeable character.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-11-12 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you do you, but Kylo, at least in movie continuity, is a cartoonishly evil villain without much in the way of nuance, so I'm not certain what the issue is in comparing him with some of the more cartoonishly stupid elements of the alt-right.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an issue because he's a cartoonishly evil fictional character in a PG-13 movie, and they're real people who are violent bigots who do actual harm to other real people? It trivializes the harm they do in favor of allowing people to feel smug over their fandom preferences.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-11-12 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
He's a cartoonishly evil space nazi who, on-screen, orders the execution of unarmed prisoners of war, performs torture, and assists in the construction of a weapon of mass destruction. I don't know where you get the idea that PG-13 characters can't be compared to real-world violent bigots, but there we are.

Now if you want to ship Reylo or Kylux, I honestly don't care. Pointing out that Kylo acts a bit like certain alt-right slacktivists isn't a comment on your shipping preferences.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think they "can't be" compared but I do think that people often use such comparisons to convince themselves that real world violent bigots are always cartoonish and obvious, while ignoring scary shit that's actually happening.