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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-26 05:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #538 ]


⌈ Secret Post #538 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 67 secrets from Secret Submission Post #077.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

TB!1, TB!2, 147

[identity profile] j-a-lie.livejournal.com 2008-06-26 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
TB!2: I like it because the cast is over the top. But hey, when you just can't die there's bound to be a few screws loose.

TB!1: As long as you remember that Asians are also humans with flaws and are just different in their quirkiness, I think we can handle people being all curious and gushing about our culture.

147. I don't think I'll ever understand how people can hate a piece of work that doesn't overstep some politically-correct grounds or do anything to people. Of course you're going to alienate some people; your reason for hating that game is not sympathetic enough.

Re: 147 (not OP)

[identity profile] tasha-mac.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
So, I'm not allowed to dislike this plate of liver and onions because it was well-prepared and didn't give me a terrible stomach virus?

Uh...what?

Why can't you just dislike it because you dislike it? Why does it have to be wrong on a social level for dislike to be okay? O_o

Re: 147 (not OP)

[identity profile] j-a-lie.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I said hate. Hate and dislike are completely different, in that dislike is generally just a feeling, but hate is very strong and unhealthy. There has to be a reason why it's called hate crime and not just dislike crime.

And...going by your example, that plate of liver and onions actually does something harmful to you. As far as I can tell from the secret the game Suikoden III doesn't hurt the OP in any way. Hence my comment.

Re: 147 (OP)

(Anonymous) 2008-06-27 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Really?? Are you using the "you can't dislike a game THERE'S HATE CRIMES OUT THERE!" argument?


Where, exactly, did you see the word "hate" in my secret? All I said is it's bad fanfiction. I mean, if that to you is the equivalent of committing a hate crime, then I just flat-out give up.

Re: 147 (OP)

[identity profile] j-a-lie.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're misinterpreting my words, just as the one I'm replying to seem to be doing. It's probably a bad choice inserting that 'hate crime', but what I really want to say is there is a major difference between disliking something and hating something, in that disliking does not involve being hostile.

Before I insert my foot into my mouth further, I would like to apologize for putting words into your mouth a little, but then again you did use 'be openly hostile'. Again, hostile is something I associate with hate and not dislike, and again I apologize if (or that) I'm putting words into your mouth.

What I never intended to do was equating saying Suikoden III is a bad fanfiction with a hate crime.
terra: (they hatin')

Re: TB!1, TB!2, 147

[personal profile] terra 2008-06-27 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I can see really hating Suikoden III if you were a hardcore Luc fan :/

Re: TB!1, TB!2, 147

[identity profile] sapphirus.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
What I disliked of III about Luc was that there was a sudden increase of his fans. :/ All clamouring "he's just misunderstood! emo! let's give him a hug!".

:/ I love Luc. I adore him. I'm happy he was in Sui 1 through 3. I'm just not happy w/ the fandom.
terra: (gizel ii)

Re: TB!1, TB!2, 147

[personal profile] terra 2008-06-27 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends. I had an experience where one of my favorite characters was retconned to be all the time evil and then killed off in an otherwise well-written story, and it annoyed me :P

I also don't get the III!Luc fangirls. With the emo. Hopefully that's died down now?

Re: TB!1, TB!2, 147

[identity profile] sapphirus.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
~_~; Oh man, retconning... I hate that in terms of established storyline.

It was a while ago... but the thing is I found them so overwhelming that I just disappeared from the fandom and tried to enjoy the following games on my own w/o having to hear any second opinions. It didn't quite work with V though... ;__;'''