[ SECRET POST #3979 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3979 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure what this is/why it's a troll? Can someone please explain?

[(Anonymous)]

There's a history of people making comments about how Nurse Ratched out of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest is a fundamentally sympathetic character - basically good and almost heroic. Which is more or less the opposite to how most people see the character - I don't know if you've seen the movie but she's more or less the villain of it - to an extent that's just kind of intrinsically trolly. They also seem to take the view that people only dislike Ratched because she's a woman, and tend to have a very misandrist tone as well.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's the fact that the McMurphy, who is supposed to be the hero, is canonically a misogynist and a rapist.

[(Anonymous)]

Still doesn't deserved to be unnecessarily lobotomized by someone who's supposed to be providing him with medical care.

[(Anonymous)]

he strangled and sexually assaulted her, so i'm not drowning in tears for him

[(Anonymous)]

We're talking about whether Ratched is sympathetic.

[(Anonymous)]

And of all the horrible things Ratched did, lobotomizing McMurphy is at the bottom of the list.

[akacat]

She's pretty much the epitome of the sadistic psychiatric health care professional trope.

Spoiler:

She drives one patient to suicide, and promptly uses his death to manipulate another patient.

[(Anonymous)]

She didn't intentionally drive him to suicide.

[(Anonymous)]

She did something which she should reasonably have known was improper, to someone she knew to be emotionally disturbed, and in a manner which is portrayed as malicious and intentional.

I wouldn't say that she's guilty of murder, but I think she has a real moral burden to bear in that regard.

[(Anonymous)]

she was trying to regain control of the situation
The loud talk and laughter swirled around the nurse. She looked from Billy and the girl to the bunch of us behind her. The enamel-and-plastic face was caving in. She shut her eyes and strained to calm her trembling, concentrating. She knew this was it, her back to the wall. When her eyes opened again, they were very small and still.

[(Anonymous)]

And that justifies it?

[(Anonymous)]

no, but it's not like she did it because she's eeevil, she was backed into a corner and trying to regain control the only way she could

[(Anonymous)]

Why the hell do you think that anyone does evil things? It's very rarely because they're eeeevil. But that doesn't make the things that they do any less evil. I reject your argument entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

You said it was malicious and intentional, I disagree,

[(Anonymous)]

She did it to exert her power in a way that she knew (or should reasonably have known) was likely to hurt him. I would call that malice and intention.