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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-25 03:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3979 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3979 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I make art that I don't sell. Places like Deviantart, Artstation, Pixiv and plenty of others are full of art that is provided entirely for free. In my town, there's a wall where artists hang their paintings. They are available for viewing entirely for free.

What people pay for is not simply viewing art, but owning a physical object, or commissioning art tailored exactly to their taste.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like this reeks of privilege. How do you get by financially, then? Is it this magical retail work people keep mentioning? And if someone is working all hours to get by at a non-creative job, how are they going to have the drive and energy to create in their down-hours? Perhaps some people can do that; I have no doubt you'll say that's what you do, although I suspect your situation is far more comfortable than those you say should provide their work for free. But I guarantee, if this were the norm, the amount and quality of literature available for you to enjoy would probably halve. At least.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It is comfortable now, yes, after I lost my job doing tech support, because the company offshored the work to India. I found another, better job, instead of sitting at home complaining that the Indians stole my work, because I am entitled to the money, and how dare they offer the same thing for less money.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see how anything you just said bears any relation to the discussion we were having. All is see is some kind of chip on your shoulder about being "self-made" that has nothing to do with writers charging for books or people expecting they should be able to access someone's life work without consent.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
This person said it better than me:

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1718899.html?thread=979855987#cmt979855987

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're really not making sense. I'm struggling to understand how someone like me, who has NO realistic expectations of ever "making the big bucks" writing LGBT sci-fi/fantasy novels and would rather give some away for free and continue to work minimum wage retail (or some other "normal job") than be a compassionless jerk to someone too poor to pay for them is the "privileged" one, here?

Not someone like you, who thinks they're so important that they ought to be able to spend hours sitting comfortably as they pen their masterpiece?

I'm not saying writers should NEVER be paid, by anybody, ever. But for fuck's sake, have a bit of kindness.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sitting comfortably? Really? You think most writers are comfortably off?

Let me tell you a little story about my sister in law. She's a writer. Started off in fandom and moved to writing ebooks. She doesn't make very much but has a steady income that supports her for the necessaries.

Also? She is disabled. She has spinal injuries that confine her to a wheelchair and she has also been diagnosed with anxiety and depression, due in part to the fact that she is now wheelchair-bound. Writing is one of the few ways she can make a living under her physical and mental conditions. And she does. However, she is not "spending hours sitting comfortably" as she pens her "masterpiece" and she cannot get a shitty retail job in order to make her work accessible for free.

So who's privileged now? Who deserves kindness and non-judgmental reactions more? Whose mental illness trumps the other? Whose ableist assumptions that she can just "work in retail and offer her work for free" are hurting whom?