[ SECRET POST #3984 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3984 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"But it had many, many flaws, and many of those were the same flaws they've always had and have refused to acknowledge."

See I partially disagree. This is something that Shield does well. The writers do acknowledge the flaws.

-Skye is a Mary Sue. This issue is mentioned in canon ("Mary Sue Poots") and then the writers attempt to improve this through the inhuman plot.

-Ward is a boring character. The writers turn him (SPOILER) evil to give him more uniqueness.

-No "big" comic characters. So, they introduced Ghost Rider.

-It's too light and too humorous. Season 4 was much darker in response.

-The beginning was criticized for being episodic and it's episodes for being monster of the week-like. Season 4 introduced it's Arc format and did not include any filler episodes.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree to disagree. Skye/Daisy is still a Mary Sue, now just with superpowers. There was certainly filler in season 4. And the "resolution" of many of the other complaints (comic characters, humor) is more about pandering to the portion of the audience they want rather than listening to the rest of the audience they have, IMO. Besides, the flaws I refer to are more structural in nature, not genre- or show-specific. It's easy to be distracted by the shiny comic book stuff and forget about, you know, how to adequately construct an ensemble-driven narrative.

[(Anonymous)]

Same anon - but the OP is right. It's definitely darker. So dark I can never see a damn thing. ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't accusing female characters of being Mary sues kinda sexist though? I mean, god forbid a woman be interesting and pull some focus on her...

[(Anonymous)]

A Mary Sue isn't any female character who's interesting and relevant to the plot. It usually refers to poorly written characters who are uninteresting because the author neglected to give them an actual personality in their haste to make them the most special character who all the other characters are somehow obsessed with.

[(Anonymous)]

nyart

To be fair to anon, there was a period where any interesting or focused on female character would get a Mary Sue accusation so I can see their confusion... but from my experience it doesn't happen anywhere near as often nowadays. And going by the people who actually watched the show it seems like Mary Sue is a fair description of Daisy.

[(Anonymous)]

There are a number of amazing female characters on that show, including May, Simmons, and Bobbi. The writers deserve much praise for developing and writing those interesting, well-rounded characters.

They equally deserve criticism for putting 99% of the focus on Daisy Sue.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. All the other female characters are better than Skye/Daisy but she gets all the focus.