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[ SECRET POST #3987 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3987 ⌋

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[Yuri on Ice]

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[Book Series: The Temeraire Novels by Naomi Novik]

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[Iron Fist, Joy/Danny]

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I absolutely dislike everything about the casting decision/character changes for Pollution for the Good Omens TV show.
I also think the general casting for the horsepersons is super heavy handed. A black guy is famine. Because Africa has problems with famines. A white lady is war. Because white nations wage war. An Asian lady is Pollution. Because China and other Asian countries are leading the pollution statistics. Wow.

I mean really, War wasn't changed. She was a redheaded woman in the book.

And Famine was never described other than being thin and having a goatee.

It could be heavy handed if they draw unneeded (and irrelevant) attention to the ethnicities, but are they planning to?

They are apparently planning to draw unneeded (and irrelevant) attention to Pollutions gender identity so I wouldn't be surprised.

The only thing I heard about that was that they intended to make Pollution gender neutral/androgynous, not that they plan on really bringing it up on the plot. Did I miss something?

The point about that is: how would that even come up if it's not explicitly mentioned in some way. And why only Pollution? The other horsepersons are just as much personifications of certain aspects for whom gender is irrelevant - why single out one of the characters for that?

I assumed only Pollution because the book goes to great lengths to point out that Pollution isn't memorable or noticeable at all, that peoples gazes skim over them and then forget they were even there, so it's easier to 'choose' to show Pollution as a gender irrelevant personification than say... War, who has a whole scene that specifically shows she's an attractive woman, or at least presenting as such.

He's also described in detail when people do notice him, so I still think it's an unnecessary change to make.

The point about that is: how would that even come up if it's not explicitly mentioned in some way.

By using they/their when referring to Pollution in the 3rd person.

And that's already too much of an unnecessary change to the character, imo. But maybe I'm just too much of a purist who doesn't like it when characters get changed too much in adaptations.

You sound really pissed about something so minor as gender identity being they/them not he/him.

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(Anonymous) - 2017-12-04 00:59 (UTC) - Expand

"A white lady is war. Because white nations wage war."

You are reading too much into this and that doesn't even make sense tbh.

Considering the neat little boxes they tried to tick with the casting, I don't think it's reading too much into it. It's just really obvious.

"White nations wage war" isn't even a stereotype.

Did you somehow miss the whole "all those imperialistic white nations are to blame for all the war in the world" narrative that's been making the rounds for ages now?

Yeah some people say that but it's nearly as common of a narrative as "starving Africans" - you're reading too much into it. Just claim they're forcing diversity like a normal troll will you?

Ah yes, the old "if you don't share my opinion you must be a troll". Get a new line, it's getting old. I don't mind the casting except for Pollution. That one I dislike. The others are fine.

Look buddy I'm not even in the Good Omens fandom I'm just saying your obvious race baiting by saying the only reason they would cast a canon white woman as a white woman is to further a political agenda is laughable and ridiculous, project harder.

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) - 2017-12-04 02:06 (UTC) - Expand

They're giving us the End-of-the-Planeteers, and you're still reading way too much into it.

I don't know this fandom, but... do you really believe that war doesn't exist, among nations not run by white people?

Obviously not. It is, however, a very popular opinion that only white nations and their imperialism of past and present are to blame for all wars.

No, that’s a very popular assertion among the” PCs are oppressing the white man” crowd, but the rest of us watch the news.

Actually, it's a very popular assertion among the left leaning liberal college crowd. But yeah, you do you.

Oh sweetie, you keep telling yourself that.

You know, nothing makes your "arguments" seem quite as pathetic as breaking out the condescending nicknames. Shows that you have the maturity of a toddler, really.

Uh-oh. Sounds like someone ran out of Richard Spencer talking points to regurgitate. Maybe you’ll feel better after a cookie and a nap.

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