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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-28 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #540 ]


⌈ Secret Post #540 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 400 secrets from Secret Submission Post #078.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 - internet scientist ], [ 1 - person lost the game ].
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Re: 143

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Scientology, as far as I know

I think you've pointed out the problem right there.

Christianity is also much bigger.

Re: 143

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think you were just trying to cause wank, frankly.

The OP picked on a religion/cult that's popular to pick on. So did you.

I hate to tell you this, but it just smells of "Ooh, look at how edgy I'm being!" when you're really not. Honestly, this type of thing is getting downright *boring.*

Re: 143

[identity profile] tulleskirt.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Iawtc. And I'm not religious.

Re: 143

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing trollish about pointing out that your admittedly narrow scope calls your argument into question.

I'm not picking on anything. I'm advocating critical thought. You shouldn't pick on a person's belief system if you're unwilling to examine your own.

If you think that's edgy, then I am at the motherfucking edge.

Re: 143

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But, if you're talking about *me,* specifically, you've got the wrong person. As I've said above, I *do* understand that Christianity is a weird religion to outsiders -- even weird to me, but I'm happy with it. I was never much one for whatever "normality" is supposed to be.

I'm just honestly sick of the "let's make fun of people's beliefs and look down on them!" in general. Whenever I see a "I found out this actor is a Scientologist, and I've lost respect for them now" secret, I cringe... and roll my eyes. Insert, for example, "gay" for "Scientologist" and just WATCH the universal beat-down. I personally don't give a whit what an actor or writer's personal life is, as long as they're making stuff that entertains me.

I did find 143 funny, but only because I think a "Cult of Chu" would make a fun website. I mean, I used to be a part of a massive chat and onetime, we made a "religion" out of modern bands. (Some forceful opinions held Queen up as "God') - all based on Judeo-Christian mythos (that most of the chat didn't believe in) -- I found it frickin' hilarious and managed to get U2 in as Archangels.

The OP of 143 didn't *have* to put in the spiel about Scientology. I don't think you *had* to put in the spiel about the Bible (insulting *both* Christians and Jews, by the way). The wank on these things is so *friggin* predictable. You get people saying "Dur, hur, hur, Christians/Jews are so ridiculous/stupid, why do people believe in God nowadays?" Then you get people like me saying "Dude, not funny!" Why don't people ever spice it up a little? Pick on religions that are more accepted/acceptable in fandom? (I'm not talking about outside-fandom-majority, I'm speaking of fandom specifically, where Christianity seems to be *almost* as unpopular and accpeted to bash wholesale as Scientology). Not that I *really* want people picking on anyone's religion... but really, I'm sick of all of it, it's getting frickin' old - on all sides.

I don't like being treated like I'm less intelligent, less "sane," or a "waste" as someone once called me for *one* aspect of my life anymore than anyone else does.

I am afraid that your social experiment, as noble as its goal was, happened to have been worded in a particularly wanky way.

Re: 143

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
... Um, I never said any of that. This was my point. (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/172546.html?thread=64559362#t64559362) Christians get bashed a lot in fandom, but that doesn't give you an excuse to act so deeply offended when I point out that actually, the bible is full of equally fantastical stories. I'm not calling you a mouthbreather, and that's something you need to level with.

Re: 143

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if you had to bring other religions into making a point about the stupid secret, you could have said, "The Bible, The Hindu Scriptures, Buddhist stories, the Qu'ran, Wicca... etc." BECAUSE Christianity is "popular to bash" in fandom. Be more frickin' creative! Stop hitting below the belt with something you know also gets made fun of in fandom a lot!

If the OP had stated that they were Christian or Jewish, you would have had a stronger point. I see the point you're trying to make, but you honestly didn't have to drag any religion besides Scientology into the argument. It's bad enough that the OP brought that up.

... I'd like to never see a religion-related secret again, honestly.

Re: 143

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not hitting below the belt, and I don't talk about Hindu and Bhuddist scriptures because that would be presumptuous of me, since I know fuck-all about Bhuddism and Hinduism.

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[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
By the way, since I've actually thought about it (pathetic) I'd either have an Eeve-lution team, or something combining Dark and Fire types. I'd love a Houndoom.

Then there's always that rogue Pidgeot hand-raised from a Lv. 2 Pidgey...