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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-28 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #540 ]


⌈ Secret Post #540 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 1/2 GOD I TALK A LOT

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least from my perspective, Christians aren't "good enough" either - that's why Jesus had to die, yadda, yadda, and in the end, he wants everyone - it's just up to you whether or not you're going to reach out in faith and come to him. (I'm not trying to convert you, by the way, just laying down basic Christian belief).

As I see it God doesn't *want* anyone to go to Hell, he just is bound by cosmic spiritual laws regarding his nature (much like we are bound by the laws of physics). Mostly, he respects you too much to mess with your free will. It's the very same reason there are so many problems in the world: Humans are Bastards theory.

If Christianity is "self-debasing" - I actually, personally, see a lot of sense in that. I subscribe to "Humans are Bastards" theory - because (see what I said above about having a difficult life?) by and large, my experience has proved it true. I think we try, and it's noble, but we can never be truly "good" on our own. I can't tell you how many people I've seen who thought they were good because they acted benevolently to a few select people, only to turn around and completely tear into someone else for being a bit "different."

Speaking as a Christian, I'm not "good," or "good enough" - I am, above all, a human. Humans slip up and we make bad decisions.

Honestly, not trying to convert you here or anything, just spelling out a little bit why I believe what I do and why it's really "not so insane" to me. Then again, I'm not the sanest person in the world, either, and I never will be.

You actually remind me of a character I wrote once. I once dabbled in doing a post-apocalyptic sci fi comic and my main character was a swordsman who was an Atheist. He was raised by Christians and respected his family, but he decided that if he "ever met God" he would run him through with his swords. He wasn't an evil character, in fact, he was my main mostly-good guy/anti-hero with a strong belief in freedom. And, no this character was not going to let me "convert" him - is just the way his personality evolved in the writing, and I wasn't portaying him as necessiarly "wrong," either. He was just an interesting character that popped out of my head. I may take the comic up again someday, if I do, you've given me some interesting "research," as it were.

Re: 1/2 GOD I TALK A LOT

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-29 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
To add:

For Christians, at least all the sects that I know, it's not so much "join us or die," as it is "There is a fire. Please evacuate the building."