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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-07 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3991 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3991 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Fall]


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[Louisa May Alcott, Little Men]


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[Winona Ryder, Jennifer Connelly]


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[Marvel Comics]


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[Shetland]


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(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's perfectly valid not to like Reylo. However, what I was talking about were people who use disliking Reylo as a shorthand for "see, I am a good person because I hate that disgusting ship." Like the people who felt it was their duty to tell a Thorki fanartist how disgusting incest is in the anon above. It's performative. There are people who haven't even seen TFA who are anti-Reylo.

People like jokes.

It's a troll fic. There are no joke. The only purpose is to put down a ship (that hadn't even taken off yet). It has ~13k more kudos than the next highest fic in the Star Wars section.

People are idiots online. But again, I don't think that you need to invoke virtue signalling to explain that.

Thousands of people reblogging without even one of them saying "hey, what's the source on this?" raised my eyebrows. (Maybe I just hang out in the wrong corner of fandom, but we would want to know.)

and not necessarily characteristic

Calling Reylo fans things like Nazis/Trump supporters/anti-black/anti-queer/abuse supporters (etc.) has, unfortunately, been very, very common. Outright stating that they are Nazis was the unusual part.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
The problem that I have is that I think, in general, it's extremely difficult when you start making generalizations about peoples' motives on a massive scale based on what they post on the Internet.

It's a troll fic. There are no joke. The only purpose is to put down a ship (that hadn't even taken off yet). It has ~13k more kudos than the next highest fic in the Star Wars section.

It's partly to put down a ship. but I am very confident that it's also humorous, and I think the humor is at least 80% of the reason that it's so popular. This is kind of tough to talk about because obviously humor is subjective but, like, it's a joke. It's 12 words wrong and you click on it and then surprise it's just 12 words. "fucking obliterated" is a humorous thing to say. It wouldn't be so popular if it wasn't funny.

Thousands of people reblogging without even one of them saying "hey, what's the source on this?" raised my eyebrows.

well, no. the people who said "what's the source on this" probably didn't reblog it. it's very hard to determine the number of people who said that because it doesn't show up as part of reblogs.

And, you know, I would want to see some proof too. But my general experience is that, in general, a lot of people on the internet are very stupid, and prone to believing any old shit they see. And I don't think that has any particular relationship to Reylo.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're underestimating how deeply purity culture has become entrenched in fandom, particularly in the anti factions.