[ SECRET POST #3997 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3997 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2]


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[Neil Gaiman, Good Omens]


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[Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan / I, Tonya]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

cool but not everyone is in fandom for the purpose of obsessively dissecting their attitudes towards the sexualization/desexualization of various minority groups. Some people are just there for the shallow reasons of imagining hot people fucking, or naked, or whatever, without tons of meta. Sure, it's good to analyze our reactions and check our potential biases, but maybe some people don't want to think that hard about their porn, specifically, fanmade or not. But they still get to hear everyone throw fits about how racist they must be for not shipping X character enough, and tbh I've seen enough people insist that there's literally NO reason you wouldn't have an equal number of black faves/ships as white EXCEPT that you're a gross racist to see where someone might feel guilty about it even if they know intellectually that there's no damn race issues involved with their preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

So why exactly are you letting those people impact your enjoyment, then? If they're being irrational, and won't listen to reason, then just block them. They're especially not worth changing your entire perspective to the point where you feel guilty over not liking one black character.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people don't live in a bubble where the opinions of others matters exactly zero to them in every single situation. People protest racial inequality exactly because they want to make people think about it, and that's what's happening with OP. Just because they feel a bit guilty doesn't mean they're some stupid moron who lets every irrational insane person color their worldview.

[(Anonymous)]

Racial equality is obviously worth fighting for, but "thinking about it" absolutely does not entail an obligation to love every PoC in every fictional story in existence, and to dislike a single one equals complete and total failure. sorry ur racist now i dont make the rules!!!

Thinking that's true is being irrational.

Wanting proper representation means that PoC characters get just as many varying personality traits as white characters, even the unlikable ones. Saying, "I hate these kinds of characters, except when they're black" is performative at best, and condescending at worst.

[(Anonymous)]

I think OP realizes they don't have that obligation and that you're being pretty hyperbolic about their post, and just plain missing the point in your last sentence on the subject.

[mimi_sardinia]

I agree with this - it should be fine to hate a PoC character for the personality they have, and not about their skin.

Let me give an example - Vivienne de Fer of Dragon Age: Inquisition. I hate her, but it is nothing to do with her being brown-skinned and everything to do with her political beliefs i.e. that the Circle system should be reinstated. I also respect her as a character because she is a very strong character. None of the reasons that I both hate her and respect her is because of her skin.

People can hate a PoC character for reason unrelated to their skin.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

And if you're going to have a diverse cast, you might as well cast all the archetypes and roles. See Zeke and Doug Judy on Brooklyn Nine-Nine as characters who are supposed to be annoying and unlikable.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not up for wading into this thread belatedly, but I do want to vigorously agree with everything you're saying here.