[ SECRET POST #3998 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3998 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I used to like them a lot but I am also seeing more and more that's bugging me. It's just not holding up the longer it's been out, and I don't like it any more.

I think the Hobbit showed a lot of the weaknesses of LOTR. It's the same issues on steroids, so that you can't ignore it, and then it's on your mind when you watch LOTR.

[(Anonymous)]

100% agree

I can still watch and enjoy the movies but they're really not aging well, especially visually. And it's not a special effects thing for me, either - it's a visual style thing. Everything just looks corny and worn-out and dull.

[soldatsasha]

I was never hugely into LotR (I mean I thought they were pretty cool movies but I wasn't invested in fandom or anything) so I watched them when they came out but basically never watched them again. Until a couple years ago, when I rewatched the trilogy and spent the whole time thinking "wtf this is awful. no srsly wtf??? people liked this? I liked this???"

[(Anonymous)]

Giant-flaming-eyeball-atop-a-tower Sauron was one of my favorite parts of the Lego Batman movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm starting to feel this too, especially after rereading the books recently. I know a lot of heart went into the whole project, but sometimes the dialogue and some action scenes feel so...Holywood...ish? The quipping in particular is so uninspired compared to Tolkien's writing. My friends do love them though, so I'm stuck with the yearly rewatch anyway (I also really don't want to spoil their mood even more after bashing The Hobbit movies to New Zealand and back).

[(Anonymous)]

I watch the movies pretty regularly and still love them, but I have a lot of gripes too.

The warfare scenes in particular annoy the shit out of me. Yeah, charge your horsemen STRAIGHT at the elephants! Don't bother trying to flank them on your nimble, fast steeds that could easily perform such a maneuver. No, run right at them where the elephant's defenses are strongest.

And at the end of the movie. Yeah, stand there and wait while you're completely surrounded by the enemy. Were they trying to buy time for Frodo by getting wiped out in five minutes? They had no idea he was that close to destroying it.

There are so many battles in the movie yet no one thought to hire a consultant on warfare? For fucks sake, I've read a few books on Chinese military history and strategy and I could have made a better consultant than that.

[(Anonymous)]

For me, I think it was the release of the Hobbit trilogy that brought everything out. It made it easier to see that Jackson is basically Lucas-lite: he has some good ideas but he works best under certain constraints and as part of a team to check him so he isn't just able to put whatever bullshit pops into his head in there. You can tell because he recycled the whole "Arwen warrior princess goes to helm's Deep" plot that he didn't get to use for Tauriel, his OC donut steele. So when you watch The Hobbit movies, and then go back and watch the LOTR trilogy, you can see that the bad stuff was always there just under the surface. I grew up watching them, but it wasn't until later that I realized my two biggest gripes: jackson takes everything in the books so fucking LITERALLY (see: sauron essentially actually being a literal fucking eye wreathed in flame), and he takes any semblance of subtlety and throws it out the window (see: everything involving magic). Granted, given all of Jackson's other work, this should not be a surprise, but it kind of sucks if you want a more faithful adaptation of LOTR in terms of tone and even like, events and such.

BUT, I still enjoy the LOTR movies. It helps if you can bring yourself to truly embrace them as separate from the books. I have all of the extended edition DVDs (and FOTR on blu-ray, keeping my eyes peeled for the others) and I've watched the making-of extras on them probably more times than I've seen the movies themselves. The sheer CRAFTSMANSHIP that went into every part of creating the movies blows me away, even if they're not perfect and certainly not perfect adaptations. So for me, i still have that nostalgia and fondness for them, it's just that my perspective has shifted a bit.

Fuck the Hobbit trilogy though. The Rankin-bass movie is more than sufficient for my needs, and it's way more beautiful visually to boot.

[(Anonymous)]

SA: Also wanted to add that these movies gave me a lifelong enduring love for basically the whole cast, who are all amazing IMO. I did not even know until recently that Brad Dourif also played Chucky, he's always been Wormtongue to me.

[philstar22]

Brad Dourif has been in so many things I like playing lots of slimy characters or just interesting characters (see his character in Babylon 5). The first thing I saw him in was Star Trek: Voyager.

[(Anonymous)]

Back in about 95 Dourif played a perfectly straight role as a police inspector n am Agatha Christie adaptation called The Pale Horse. It was weird to see him just playing a nice normal good guy. And fun!

[(Anonymous)]

I still love Fellowship, it is one of y favourite movies, but I almost never think of watching the other two. It was a case of diminishing returns for me, sadly.