[ SECRET POST #4000 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4000 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't see what makes them any more absurd than Liv Tyler as possible casting choices

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't Mira Sorvino have a rather noticeable accent? I don't know what kind but it sounds very distinctive to my ear. Ashley Judd is great but IMO her face is so recognizable that I'd have a hard time connecting to the character rather than just thinking hey, it's Ashley Judd!

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure if this is what you're referring to, but her iconic accent in Romy and Michele isn't her natural one, she created it for the role.

I know for me I have trouble imagining Sorvino's voice without the valley girl intonation. Even when she's in interviews or in other roles it's like my brain projects it there even though it isn't in reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. OP would probably say it about Liv Tyler too, if she wasn't cast, and then OP later found out she was a possible casting choice.

[(Anonymous)]

I too was surprised that at one point they'd actually considered casting women who can act.

[(Anonymous)]

The fuck are you saying about Cate Blanchett???

[(Anonymous)]

What I wonder is why these directors listened. Like, they can make their own decisions, and there are other producers out there.

[(Anonymous)]

I assume that they didn't know at the time that it was part of a harassment campaign.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Directors were simply given "forewarning" that these women were impossible to work with and would set back production with their bullshit if allowed, so it was best not to hire them in the first place if it was avoidable. Sounded like a heads-up, was actually an awful smear campaign from a couple of giant manbabies.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because they were trying to get their ambitious movie made and it makes sense to them to listen to the studio they hope greenlights it when it comes to things like acting choices, etc.,. People forget, Peter Jackson was not Peter Jackson in that period where LOTR was in constant development hell, especially when the project was attached to Miramax.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure you quite understand how Hollywood works. Directors listen because producers are powerful people. You don't always have the option of going, "Nah, I don't agree with these extremely powerful producers, guess I'll find another one". Assholes like Weinstein are highly influential in the business and they have no problem throwing their weight around, either. And remember that back then, Peter Jackson wasn't a big name in movies at all.

[(Anonymous)]

All hail Lady Galadmirael of Sagebrush Highwood!

I'm not sure what the issue is.

[(Anonymous)]

I could totally see Mira Sorvino as a hobbit and Ashley Judd as an elf. I guess either of them could have played Eowyn. They probably would have been cast in 1999, which puts Mira Sorvino a few years after her Oscar and Ashley Judd a couple of years after Kiss the Girls. And they were both nominated for Golden Globes and Emmys for Norma Jean & Marilyn. I wasn't always enamored of how Mira Sorvino chose to play characters, but they both seem like pretty good actors. I like Liv Tyler, but I don't think she was a better or more high profile actor than they were at the time and she got cast.

Re: I'm not sure what the issue is.

[(Anonymous)]

But sometimes not being more high profile is kind of the point? For highly escapist fantasy, you kind of want people who aren't necessarily super famous in other iconic roles because you don't always want that baggage. I mean, who the hell was Viggo Mortenson, right? They could've cast any number of more well known 30-40 something white guys, it's not like there's ever a shortage in the pool of Hollywood actors in that demographic.

Mira Sorvino as Eowyn might've been interesting, though. I never thought Miranda Otto seemed comfortable in that role.

Re: I'm not sure what the issue is.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Neither was super iconic at the time, if I recall, just a little more well-known than Liv Tyler. I'm not sure you can argue that there wasn't a mix of higher and lower profile actors in the various roles, though, especially if you consider their profiles in their home countries, not just Hollywood.

My point was, they are both pretty good actors with a certain amount of notability and often when kicking around names for roles those qualities merit consideration.

[(Anonymous)]

Ashley Judd is pretty elfin, I can see it.

Also, this was a project that had Hugo Weaving as Elrond.

[(Anonymous)]

Good point about Weaving. At the time his role in The Matrix overshadowed everything he did (hence all the "Mr Baggins... you disappoint me" jokes). But he was terrific as Elrond! The way he face-acted during the "Hey, guess who I have here behind this banner, yup, it's Arwen" scene in The Return of the King still manage to make me tear up.