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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4007 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4007 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pokémon USUM]


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[Moby]


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[Brooklyn 99, Gina Linetti]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]


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[Illusion of Gaia]


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[Stranger Things]













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(Anonymous) 2017-12-23 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's incorrect. Dogs are carnivores who have adapted to be able to glean some nutrition from plants, but can't thrive on a plant-based diet because their digestive systems are set up for meat consumption.

Arguably, humans don't thrive on an entirely plant-based diet either, since there are several essential nutrients that we can't get from plants and vegan nutritional supplements are only marginally effective at making up the difference. However, vegans have the right to choose to eat whatever they like. Dogs don't get a choice and have to eat whatever humans provide for them, so feeding them things that will cause them to have a poor quality of life is abusive.

If you're a vegan who wants a pet and are unwilling to compromise your food-related principles to accommodate whatever animal will be depending on you to keep it healthy, please choose one of the many, many animals that evolved to eat plants and nothing but plants. Bunnies are nice.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
What nutrients can we humans only get from meat?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-23 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to assume that by "meat" you mean "all animal products," since that's what vegans don't eat.

B12 is the big one. There is no viable source of B12 that doesn't involve animal exploitation of some sort. Various amino acids, taurine and zinc are found in trace amounts in various plants, but it's difficult to get enough of any of those nutrients from just eating plant-based foods. Since they are available in plants, through the magic of chemistry you can concentrate them into supplement form, but if your supplements have undergone any sort of regulation they've probably also been tested on animals, so there's that.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Don't the animals we eat get their B12 from supplements to begin with?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Herbivores get it from microorganisms found in soil and from eating pellets or cud or shit or whatever partially digested source of gut bacteria that animal is designed to eat. None of these sources would be considered vegan, strictly speaking. Other-vores get it from eating insects and other animals.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Humans used to get b12 because we lacked basic food sanitation for a long time. This is how a lot of other animals get b12 as well. Also from eating shit, but i doubt humans want to do that.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Wait... you mean to tell me that human bodies require a vitamin that can only come form eating shit, or eating something that ate shit?

"Intelligent design" my ass...