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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4007 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4007 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pokémon USUM]


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[Moby]


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[Brooklyn 99, Gina Linetti]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]


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[Illusion of Gaia]


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[Stranger Things]













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(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
One of the biggest problems with the human diet IS the meat. Meat consumption is a major component of almost all the top ten causes of preventable human mortality in the US. There's plenty of info out there about that if you wanna look it up. I don't want to get into it cause I could go on for hours about it and those conversations drain me these days.

I'm not strictly against a meat based diet for animals. I haven't really seen much evidence that it's a good idea for cats, but the dogs I've seen seem to do even better on a vegan diet than the alternative. I'm just irritated that people have jumped to the kneejerk reaction that vegans are horrible for feeding dogs a vegan diet when I doubt a single one of them would chastise a person picking up a bag of Old Roy (which has literally killed dogs). Literally all of my parent's companion animals have died of liver cancer because they were feeding them the cheapest shit they could get at the grocery store. But they'd get less flak than my best friend who feeds her dog an expensive, specially formulated vegan dog kibble that has drastically improved the vitality of her dog.

Just because an animal has long fangs doesn't mean that it eats a lot of meat, or requires meat for survival. The diet of a black bear is about 90% plant based, and the animals they do eat are done so opportunistically, not every day. Wolves in the wild value the stomach contents of ungulates over every other part of the animal because of how nutritionally valuable it is. Next they go for the organs because they contain the next highest amount of nutrients. The actual flesh, the meat of the animal, is the least desired and the least nutritionally valuable.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I take it you've never heard of offal

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT—I’ve been vegetarian for 23 years. But I guarantee that someone who ate a moderate amount of pasture-raised lean meat and eggs every day alongside beans and whole grains and lots of veggies and fruit with maybe some dairy would do way better than I do, health wise, especially if they exercised. I don’t exercise enough and I’m too fond of junk food. Vegan and vegetarian diets aren’t automatically healthier than omnivorous diets.

The quantity of meat people eat and the shitty (often literally) diet and living conditions of the animals raised for it, plus the shitty overall diet and lack of exercise of the people eating it, are bigger problems than people eating meat at all. 1 serving of meat is supposed to be something like 4 oz—half a cup or the size of a deck of playing cards. In the average steakhouse restaurant, that’s the kids’ menu option. Americans eat too much crappy meat.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-24 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
DA but that's the point exactly. You can be totally healthy eating meat, but most people eat such poor quality meat and other animal products in such obscenely high quantities that they'd probably be better off not eating any at all. Of course, there will always be people who say that they only eat organic grass-fed hormone-free pasture-raised lean meat and eggs, but how many people ONLY eat expensive animal products all the time or even most of the time? And how sustainable would that be if every person ate only "a moderate amount" of these higher quality products? The reason why factory farming is so awful isn't because humans want animals to suffer, it's because more humane methods aren't as economical and potentially would not be able to keep up with the demand.

Plus animal agriculture is destroying the planet, which is bad for everyone's health.