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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-28 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #4012 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4012 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Golden Girls]


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[The Last Jedi]


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[Against the Wall, Kyle MacLachlan & Samuel L. Jackson]


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Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I don't think anything has been ruled out yet. One of his major motivations seems to be (to me, a casual Star Wars fan) that even though he keeps making bad choices, deep down he wants to be good, and he just keeps pushing that desire down because he thinks that love and trust would hurt too much. That's part of his conflict with Snoke; Snoke is frustrated that he doesn't seem able to fully commit himself to the dark side no matter what awful things he does to kill the part of himself that wants to be good. He sees good as weakness because being good brought him pain, but he's clearly constantly angry and unhappy being bad. I think he could still get his shit together.

Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Star Wars, so of course he can still get his shit together.

But the decision he makes in TLJ felt really momentous and significant to me.

Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What exactly are you trying to say?

Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
He was presented with a pretty explicit choice between joining Rey and being good, or becoming the new Emperor and going full dark side, and he chose to be dark side.

I just don't see where this idea is that he actually hates being bad when he made a choice to continue being super evil when given the chance.

Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Because people are complicated and sometimes lie to themselves or make decisions that contradict what's best for them or how they really feel? Because it's Star Wars and more evil characters have been redeemed after previously making the choice to continue being super evil every time they got the chance? Because people enjoy storylines where apparently irredeemable villains change their minds and try to make amends?

I'm not saying he definitely will be redeemed, just that it's not an absurd impossibility and I can see why some people do argue that he will be redeemed. And I can certainly understand why some people hope he gets a redemption arc. The seeds of woobie!Kylo are there whether any of us like it or not; arguing that his fans completely pulled it out of their asses just makes naysayers look childish. I have to wonder if people who passionately argue that redemption is impossible for him are just bitter about the character's (or a certain ship's) popularity.

Re: One of my favorite published authors wrote Reylo fic

(Anonymous) 2017-12-29 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying redemption is impossible for him. It's Star Wars, redemption is possible for everyone.

I'm saying that, so far in the story, he has not been presented as a character who secretly wants to be good and hates being bad.