[ SECRET POST #4015 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4015 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Considering Atlus also made Persona 4, which included Naoto and that gender-based shit-spectacle (though whether that's due to the Japanese text or the English localization I still don't really understand)? I don't have a lot of faith they're gonna get it any more right this time around... but I'd love to be proven wrong so

[(Anonymous)]

Catherine did fine with the trans character it already has and the cultural context around Naoto is worth examining before throwing stones despite fanservice shit undermining some of it.

[(Anonymous)]

(DA, i agree)

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[(Anonymous)]

I didn’t play Catherine, but I did find this: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/10/04/the-video-game-characters-you-never-knew-were-lgbt

“Erica also gets the nightmares that only male characters in Catherine get, implying that she's viewed by the creators of the game as inherently male. This is a really gross way of approaching the subject due to the implications it makes about her "true" gender, and it gets worse. In the game's end credits, her pre-transition name is used for some inexplicable reason.”

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, wasn't the trans character in Catherine essentially an extended trap joke? The guy she sleeps with didn't know she's trans and cries at the end that he wants his virginity back.

Then there's the other trap joke in Persona 3...

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[(Anonymous)]

Tbh, it might be better for your argument to include Naoto as trans because at least you could argue her being clueless "representation", instead of mean-spirited.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

What do you even mean by that? I'm not change my interpretation just because I want to win an internet argument.

[(Anonymous)]

Naoto clearly dresses as male in order to be taken seriously in her profession, that's literally it. There is no gender-based shit-spectacle beyond a young woman wanting to be respected among her peers and feeling like she needs to disguise herself in order to achieve that. Japan has huge cultural differences compared to the west.

[(Anonymous)]

This. She never gives any indication that she is uncomfortable or unhappy being female beyond the fact that she worries that she wouldn't be taken seriously in a male-dominated profession. When we see her in the epilogue she is perfectly comfortable dressing in feminine clothing and presenting as her true gender.

[thewakokid]

This seems to be the case from what I've seen, but I am on the outside until I can watch the anime.