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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-04 05:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4019 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4019 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2018-01-04 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2018-01-04 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I agree with you. If anything they should have had a larger woman play that character, and it sadly isn't surprising when people take the attitude that basically throws any woman fatter than the example under the bus.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-01-04 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really know what Natalie thought of herself, re: being fat. She never really said, but I think that yes, it sucked that she was being fat-shamed (and yeah, so not fat). I like that the immediate reaction (and subsequent reactions) of the PM to any 'fat' comments was negative, and he made it obvious he *didn't* think she was fat at all.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-04 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that bit was so confusing. Clearly in no way fat. The actress was maybe not super slender, but I can't believe anyone in London would look at her and think she was even overweight. And that explanation is clearly bull, the character never once comments on her own weight. The PM at least maybe looked believably confused at the other characters calling her fat, but it's more believable that the character was intended to be fat and he just thought she was pretty, regardless.

Same with Jan in the Grease movie. What a weird thing way to cast.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I couldn't buy her story at all because she was nowhere near fat. I know plenty of women who are much heavier than she is and they don't get anywhere near the level of fat-shaming that she got so the entire thing just didn't resonate with me as being realistic at all - it felt totally contrived.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only ever seen bits of this movie and not the fat-shaming parts, but yeah, Hollywood-fat is not real-world-fat, and it's not typical for women who are merely Hollywood-fat to be fat shamed by random adults around them. I mean, it can happen, but it's not going to be this whole thing.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-01-04 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
no, nobody is perfect.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, wanting the audience to say "that's ridiculous, she's not fat" just means they're saying it's okay to shame anyone larger than the actress! Cast someone who is actually fat and pretty!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just Natalie. Aurelia's sister (who actually was an overweight woman) is called Miss Dunkin Donuts by her father

Between that and Natalie's father calling her Plumpy, it just left a bad taste in my mouth

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think I've always assumed that people making comments about each other's weight is just more common and innocuous in the UK. I mean, going purely off of British television, verbal insults between friends and family seem to be taken as normal and innocuous, far more than they are in North America. For example, I always flinch at the scene in Bridget Jones where Briget's father calls Briget's mother a daft cow. The way he says it, it definitely seems to be meant affectionately, but as a Canadian who isn't used to that kind of thing it just feels verbally abusive.

So whenever I watch Love Actually, I guess I've always just presumed I should take the weight comments in a similar context.

(Aslo, no judging Brits for any of this. I find the whole "we casually insult each other because we love each other" thing to be rather endearing a lot of the time, tbh.)

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I hate these 'men are so innocent, they just don't get why women are so hard on ourselves!' excuses. IIRC, the PM (jokingly at the end), her dad and the assistant call her fat; she never comments on it herself. And yeah, there was also the 'fat sister' bit in Colin Firth's storyline.