[ SECRET POST #4022 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4022 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/KQAbNef.png

[(Anonymous)]

Well...

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/03/most-dinosaurs-had-scales-not-feathers-fossil-analysis-concludes

[kamino_neko]

This is why I hate 'science journalism' - it takes a non-contraversial result and acts like it overturns what was actually known.

There was never a serious claim that non-theropods were feathered, merely a hypothesis that it may have been basal to all dinosaurs.

That it isn't doesn't change the fact that Coelurosaurs (except possibly for the largest, like Tyrannosaurus) are feathered.

[junee]

Yes, thank you! I hate when this article get trotted out as "HA! Got ya!" by anti-feather bros. Though that article about Tyrannosaurus skin impressions is still the worst!

Every time I see this article the pedantic part of me wants to point out that technically it isn't even true. The avian dinosaurs outnumber the (known) non-avian dinosaurs, so yes, most dinosaurs are feathered. ;D

[kamino_neko]

Every time I see this article the pedantic part of me wants to point out that technically it isn't even true. The avian dinosaurs outnumber the (known) non-avian dinosaurs, so yes, most dinosaurs are feathered. ;D

Hah, yes, I actually considered mentioning that, too - though I wasn't 100% sure that it was the case and couldn't find a cite, so I cut it for fear of undermining my point...

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really care what the Jurassic Park series does - their raptors were actually modeled after deinonychus (which probably also had feathers, but is still not the same thing as a velociraptor). Velociraptors had a somewhat different head shape than in the movie and were smaller than deinonychus (and for the movies they scaled them up even further from deinonychus-size).

I am 100% in favor of seeing really good CGI fluffy-feathered raptors in something. They would be like some kind of death chickens. That would be awesome.

Like the other anon said, not all dinosaurs had feathers so I wouldn't want to see them on triceratops or something, although I think it would be neat to see more brightly colored skin markings on dinosaurs.

[(Anonymous)]

I want... no, I DEMAND to see a fluffy death chickens movie!

[philstar22]

Yes!

[(Anonymous)]

We shall call it Rampant Cocks, as taken from the Zero Punctuation series.

[ari_griffin]

Murder Cock
Cock-a-doodle-doo he's coming for you.

[(Anonymous)]

I grieve that it's a bit late and fewer people will see this comment because it's A+ excellent.

[sabotabby]

Saaaame.

[evil_little_dog]

Just here to say your icon is <3 <3 <3.

[sabotabby]

Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

Seconded. I love your icon.

[sabotabby]

Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

The feather hypothesis has pretty much fallen out of popularity, though.

[kamino_neko]

No, it hasn't.

The idea that feathers are basal to all dinosaurs, rather than being a derived feature common to the Coelurosaurs, and appearing in a few random other lineages, has, but that doesn't change that most Coelurosaurs (most importantly to this secret, all the Maniraptors) are feathered.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Yeah, there are too many confirmed feather fossils and too much cladistic evidence putting Aves and Theropods together to squash the idea (which, curiously enough, predates Darwin by a few years.)

[junee]

Oh! Well, thanks to the anon that turned my post into a secret. :)

I should clarify I meant to say "feather them theropod boys up!" not all non-avian dinosaurs.

Credit where credit is due: the adorable dromaeosaur chick is by Natee.

Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

Jurassic World 2 can't do it to most of their dinosaurs that would have feathers without retconning a lot. Though, I suppose they could introduce some newer ones, somehow. That would be kind of cool.

[(Anonymous)]

Jurassic Park dinosaurs are iconic and while I wouldn't mind feathered dinosaurs, I don't think they should replace the ones they already have. Also, it's tricky to be accurate with something like dinosaurs since we're still discovering things about them. What's accurate now may change in a few years.

[junee]

I'd rather someone try their best to be accurate only to be wrong sometime down the line than to just throw their hands up and say "Well, we'll never really know, so why even try!".

Jurassic Park vs Jurassic World is a good example of what I mean. I'm much more forgiving of JP's mistakes because you can tell they made an effort even if they fell short. Jurassic World, on the other hand, didn't even try. It even went backwards in some cases. Seriously, how do the Stegosaurs go from fairly accurate in Lost World to looking like they waddle out of a Charles R. Knight painting in JW?

[(Anonymous)]

Whether or not dinosaurs had feathers I don't really care, but that baby raptor is super adorable! ;A;

[dinogrrl]

I agree that more modern-accurate dinosaurs in media would be awesome, but I also agree with the other commenters that jamming that into something already established like the Jurassic Park/World series probably isn't the best idea. Unless they decide to totally reboot the series.

It'd be like a new Dinotopia book suddenly having all the dinosaurs be scientifically up-to-date. Cool, yes. Very jarring and unsettling, yes. Short of Gurney republishing the books with updated art (which would be cool, but one heck of a project), I wouldn't be upset if future installments continued on their mostly-featherless way. Just as I won't be upset when new JP movies care more about dinosaur-monsters wreaking havoc on those silly humans than science.