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⌈ Secret Post #4036 ⌋

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Comments

[thewakokid]

Oh, she looks fine, but she did spend a lot of the trailer either captive, or running for her life. Sure, she ran for her life like a boss, but, what, she fired like one arrow? (And she held the bow kinda awkwardly at that. Jason Bourne she was not.

[(Anonymous)]

It's really weird to me that you seem to think offensive violence is the only way to be a bamf.

If anything, I would say surviving brutal danger with extreme efficacy is a more bamfy behavior than most offensive violence. Though I did also really enjoy her extremely badass use of that ice-pick type thing to take out the dude with a rifle.

[thewakokid]

Not the only way, but when you have a badass who's trademark is dual pistols, and she is an action game star, and people love her because she kicks ass, and you have her running for her life and being held captive as the SELLING point, you have not made her a bamf, you have, at best, hinted at the possibility that she is a bamf.

Like, I would run from danger like a badass, because that's all I could do, but when Lara Croft is threatened, she kicks ass. Kicks it with ferocity, grace and flare.

Like, it's possible to be a bamf at chess, but would you watch a film about a badass chessmaster staring the rock? Or would that seem very boring and unbadass to you?

Ok, maybe a bad idea, since I sould watch a chess movie staring the rock, it sounds awesome, but you see my point, it would not be badass.

[(Anonymous)]

Like, I would run from danger like a badass, because that's all I could do, but when Lara Croft is threatened, she kicks ass. Kicks it with ferocity, grace and flare.

Lol, the majority of the "threats" she faced in the trailer were threats like The Ocean! Rock Slides! A Waterfall! Gravity! Surviving that shit is kicking ass with ferocity and flare. Like, again I say, what trailers did YOU watch?

Also, unless you've been holding out on us and you're secretly ripped af - no, you would not run from danger "like a badass." If you faced ANY of the shit Lara faces in that trailer, chances are you would die. That's not badass. What makes Lara badass is that she runs from such immense danger so effectively that she survives.

[thewakokid]

The key word is Surviving. Lara Croft Does not mearly survive the elements. Lara Croft is a bad ass who does not fall off a planes wing and tumble and get the fuck knicked out of her, It might happen, but the next scene is the turning the tumble into a swan dive, or whipping out her pistols and blasting some fuckers at the bottom.

I would probably die, yes, but I would be just as ungraceful and desperate as she is, you see what I'm saying, we don't see her survive, we don't see her overcome, we see her do exactly what I would do. Running, Jumping falling and getting hurt and captured. The fact that she probably survives it is... Well, I mean, that's the bare minimum we want from our bad-asses, isn't it? That they survive the majority of their bad situations? What a badass hero should do is be seen overcoming, be seen beating something, not struggling against it, but thriving.

Ok, Like... Lara Croft falls off an aeroplanes wing into some water while screaming - Probably survives, based on narative rules, but we don't see it, Vs Lara Croft Staring down a T-Rex and getting ready to fight it. You see why one of those two things is 1) more in character, and 2) more bad ass, more controlled, showing more Active rather than Re-active? Showing more "I got this" kinda vibe, yes?

[thewakokid]

You know, I think I can illustrate my point best by showing older tombraider trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZuIOfQFz6E

[soldatsasha]

Goddamn I played Tomb Raider 1+2 when they were new and I was so impressed by the graphics at the time. They look fucking awful now.

fwiw I get what you're trying to say.

Lara Croft has been established as an OTT action hero for more than 20 years now. She's got a witty one-liner for every situation. She never loses her cool. She can take on an army of dudes in short-shorts and armed with just two guns. She can solve ancient puzzles in a snap, all while fighting dinosaurs and getting chased by boulders. She can do super-parkour and she practices in her fuck-off huge gym in her fuck-off huge mansion while her creepy butler follows her around. She doesn't get hurt or frightened or captured. No man could get the best of her.

That's who she's been since the very beginning. When you strip that away from her and make her some regular person, she's not Lara Croft anymore.

It's like taking making a movie about Superman, except he's not actually heroic and he starts to cry whenever the bad guys hit him.

[(Anonymous)]

Lara Croft has been established as an OTT action hero for more than 20 years now.

Well, no, that's not quite right. Lara Croft was established as an OTT action here for 17 years, and then they changed the character in 2013, and that's the version that they're making a movie of. You don't have to like this version of the character, but it's not a Hollywood innovation, it's a different version of the character from the video games. One that you happen not to prefer.