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⌈ Secret Post #4041 ⌋

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; linked for illustrated? nudity / OP warned for NSFW]

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11. [SPOILER for Stranger Things, season 2]

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12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]

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13. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]

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THIS THIS THIS.

He could have allowed the other kids to come over and visit under the guise of a hike, a camp out, or 'learning woods skills'. He could have let her call people on the phone and/or write letters and stuff.

He could have taken her to the movies and met up with her friends, or out of town to a diner or IHOP on the highway somewhere and had Steve or Johnathan or Nancy bring the other kids.

He had *so many options*, and then he got pissy and mean when she couldn't stand it anymore. I really disapproved of his choice, there.

all of those decisions would make her much more likely to be discovered by the extremely powerful secret government organization trying to hunt her down

Uh huh. No. Because he was *working with* the fucking secret govt. organization (or, at least a branch of it), and that Doctor - Ownen - was doing his best to make sure *no other govt. agency* heard about the gate, the Upsidedown, Eleven, etc. He even organized a fake birth certificate and adoption papers for her showing Hopper as her dad!

Hopper was running out to some random cabin in the woods that he hadn't been to in years and buying food and supplies and carting them out there.

Way to be obvious!

You hide things in plain sight, and you don't call attention by suddenly changing your habits and patterns. He had better choices, and he didn't make them, and he treated Eleven poorly.

That's not a given. For starters, it would've meant that 11 probably wouldn't have gotten so frustrated with the isolation and she might have been a lot less likely to break out on her own...you know, the thing that DID put her back on the radar.

It's not a given, no, but I think it would be a real concern

it's not like he didn't do those things because he was too stupid to think of the

Who said Hopper was stupid?

tabaqui

Uh, no, i did not. Copy-paste where I called him 'stupid'.

If you think that he had a wide variety of options that were obvious, simple, not especially risky, and generally strictly better than the one that he took, what's your explanation for why he made the choice that he did?

Where do you live that smart people never make mistakes or have errors in judgment?

He was panicked and overwhelmed and harboring a *lot* of guilt over his dead daughter. Which was pretty clearly shown in the show.

And if you are the anon who said i used the word 'stupid' - once again, please copy/paste where I did that.

There's this thing, it's called reading between the lines and recognizing the context and implications of words. Stop asking people for a copy/paste of the exact word that everyone knows you didn't say but could have reasonably been implying.

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Nope. I think you might need to read more carefully.

Literally right in the beginning of second season the kids blab to Max about everything even though she wasn't even their friend yet and had no reason to keep any secrets of theirs. They're kids, you really think they can keep a secret as serious as Eleven's case was? If she was caught they may never have found her again.

And who were the kids going to tell? Random adults? They told Max - and Max...told no one. They're *kids* - they don't confide in adults.

And they kept Elven and the Upsidedown a secret for the whole year she was stuck in the cabin, so...yeah. I think they could.

Yeah but an adult isn't reasonably going to trust that. One mistake and it would have been over. The fewer people who know about a situation, the better you can contain it. It's just basic logic.

'Basic logic' is expecting a young girl, heady from her first real interactions with the world, traumatized and scared, missing her friends terribly and afraid of being betrayed or locked up again...to be happy sitting in a ramshackle cabin in the middle of nowhere eating crappy tv dinners and frozen waffles and never going outside or seeing those friends she almost died to defend.

I mean, seriously.

If the kids were that bad about keeping 11 a secret, season one would've been one episode long.

Yup. And after everything that happened in season one, they knew even *more* clearly how careful they had to be. And other than Max - they told *no one*, not even their parents, what had gone on.

No. Why would he trust a bunch of idiot kids with the life of someone? Idiot kids who told some random girl everything? Who can't be trusted NOT to try and raise an evil monster>

And he can't take her out in public. She would be found then.

Also, did you forget the shady government that was literally spying on all of Hawkins?

See my previous comments because - i heartily disagree but don't feel like typing them all out *again*.

You are wrong and painfully naive.

No, *you* are wrong. There, happy now? Jayzus fuck, it's my opinion about a tv show. I think Hopper made poor choices and hurt El. Period.

I think he could have done *much* better by her. Period.

Now please go bother someone else, like maybe the person who wrote this secret, 'cause i've said my piece.

Uh... that "bunch of idiot kids" were the ones who rescued Elle and kept her hidden in the first place, not Hopper. Also I don't get the vibe that Hopper's that arrogant. He knows he's not infallible. I don't think he'd feel as dismissive about the kids as you seem to?