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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; linked for illustrated? nudity / OP warned for NSFW]


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11. [SPOILER for Stranger Things, season 2]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
1. Yes, I do believe assholes exist across time and cultures. Some do change of their own accord, but they don't seem to respond to nagging, moralizing, or shaming. In fact, these things seem to only fuel their fire.

2. When you try to change someone, you are asserting that you are superior to them in some way and that you are thus entitled to exercise control over them. At the very least, it's off-putting, often counterproductive, and at an extreme, can become abusive in itself.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's not just whether assholes exist across time and culture. It's whether assholes exist in the same proportion, and whether their asshole behaviors manifest themselves in different ways, and whether those manifestations of assholishness are more or less harmful.

When you try to change someone, you are asserting that you are superior to them in some way and that you are thus entitled to exercise control over them.

First, I'm not sure how it follows that trying to change someone's behavior implies exercising control over them. I don't think that telling someone not to be an asshole is exercising control over them, for instance.

Second, I'm not sure that I agree that attempting to change someone implies that you think you're superior to them. It implies that you think that one thing is better than another - that, for instance, not murdering someone is better than murdering them. But I don't think that implies superiority, and if it does imply superiority, then it seems like that criticism could be leveled at basically anyone who thought that one thing was better than another. which seems extreme.

da

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think there's a difference between presenting an argument and trying to bully people into changing. You have a right to think people should change, but not the right to force them to.